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« on: April 12, 2017, 09:41:05 »

Last night Tornado became the first steam loco to reach 100 mph since the end of Southern steam fifty years ago.
The special left Newcastle around 0240 and reached 100 mph north of York
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« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2017, 10:06:14 »

My reaction when I heard this on the radio this morning was "what's the point?". Bittern was allowed to do 90mph to mark the anniversary of fellow A4 Mallard's world steam speed record, but as far as I know there's no occasion to mark this time so why has Tornado been allowed to exceed the general 75mph restriction for mainline steam?
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« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2017, 10:28:19 »

Possibly to allow authorisation of 90 mph running, the 100mph being the 10% overrun
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« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2017, 10:29:47 »

My reaction when I heard this on the radio this morning was "what's the point?". Bittern was allowed to do 90mph to mark the anniversary of fellow A4 Mallard's world steam speed record, but as far as I know there's no occasion to mark this time so why has Tornado been allowed to exceed the general 75mph restriction for mainline steam?

ICBW but I *think* it is in connection with allowing Tornado to run at up to 90mph on future trains. This will give them more flexibility on pathing on main lines as it will be better able to keep out of the way of other services. I'm presuming that this run was to demonstrate a 10% overspeed capability in line with other new trains.

Edit: Pipped by bradshaw  Cheesy
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« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2017, 23:08:45 »

Reports on the BBC» (British Broadcasting Corporation - home page) website certainly implied that was a test intended to facilitate regular mainline running at 90 MPH.

Splendid ! Grin I hope that we will see charters hauled by Tornado at 90 MPH.
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It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
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« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2017, 23:34:25 »

On the West Somerset to Minehead, for example?  Wink Cheesy Grin





That was a joke, by the way: member 'broadgage' is very familiar with Minehead and the West Somerset Railway.  Lips sealed
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« Reply #6 on: April 16, 2017, 12:15:03 »

Yes, 100MPH would be a bit much ON the WSR, but a rail tour or charter that reached 90 en-route to the preserved line could be attractive.
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It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU (Diesel Multiple Unit) is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2017, 16:53:25 »

On 31st May, I'll be signalling Tornado at the Bodmin & Wenford.  I hope it'll be going a <tad> slower than that when Handing over the token, at the end of the Bodmin General platform...
(It's a bay platform, and the line speed for token handover is 5mph!)
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« Reply #8 on: April 21, 2017, 17:02:25 »

With many thanks to you for posting that, rower40 ... but you do know that 31 May 2017 is a Wednesday, don't you?

See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_axHV2wx8RA  Shocked Roll Eyes Grin

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« Reply #9 on: April 21, 2017, 18:53:04 »

Without even clicking the link I know it's Jethro...
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« Reply #10 on: May 15, 2017, 18:55:14 »

Programme on BBC» (British Broadcasting Corporation - home page) 1 local Northeast and Yorkshire tonight at 19:30 (Sky 955-957) about Tornados 100mph run
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« Reply #11 on: May 15, 2017, 23:11:24 »

The programe is now up on BBC» (British Broadcasting Corporation - home page) IPlayer link below its well worth a watch
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b08rb16k/tornado-the-100mph-steam-engine.
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« Reply #12 on: May 16, 2017, 23:14:34 »

I concur: it's half an hour of your life that is actually well worth spending in watching such a thrilling historic event.  Wink

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