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« on: April 28, 2017, 18:57:37 »

Looks as though there are trains every 15 minutes from Cardiff to London from 2300 to 0400 after the final ends, with passengers having to reserve an hour slot to avoid overcrowding.  Good to see that GWR (Great Western Railway) seems to be pulling all the stops out for the event. 

Though one thing intrigues me, with the finalists not decided until a couple of weeks beforehand, how do all these arrangements get communicated to the fans so they can travel in confidence (and coordinated with flights etc)?  And will an effort be made to provide multilingual leaflets, signage on the day (and I'm not talking about Welsh either)?

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« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2017, 20:03:22 »

Knowing UEFA, it would have been down to the Welsh FA to make sure that suitable services were running, and I expect GWR (Great Western Railway) are being fully compensated.

Probably runs if required, but it appears turbos may be used for the last few departures, these departures from Cardiff are down as 'HST (High Speed Train)' on RTT» (Real Time Trains - website) although the inbound workings are from Reading Depot and also take longer to get to Paddington by 15 minutes eg;5Z51 1Z51

If only they could use the 387s by now  Roll Eyes  (As possibly intended for future large Principality Stadium events)
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« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2017, 22:17:58 »

Traditionally the Champions League Final, especially if staged in the UK (United Kingdom) and not between UK-based teams supports a massive airlift, and I'm sure that's how a lot of the fans will travel - the well-heeled/corporate ones in fleets of private aircraft, the rest in chartered aircraft of all sizes.

When it was last held at Wembley, between 2 German teams in 2013, the "smaller" London Airports (Luton and Stansted) were full to bursting.

Cardiff Airport is well used to the 6 Nations Rugby airlifts, but this will be a lot bigger.
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« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2017, 15:40:28 »

From the BBC» (British Broadcasting Corporation - home page):
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Champions League final: More trains to avoid 'embarrassment'

Champions League football fans have been promised 21 post-match high speed trains from Cardiff to "avoid the embarrassment" of a repeat of the Rugby World Cup travel chaos.

About 60,000 travellers are expected to pass through Cardiff Central station following the 3 June showpiece.

Economy Secretary Ken Skates said Wales had "learned lessons" after an inquiry into the long delays in 2015.

The Welsh Government has "taken on board" the risk of reputational damage.

Wales also wants to bid to European football's governing body Uefa for a second Champions League final if this one is a success.

"If we deliver the Champions League well and Uefa are content, it will place us in a good position to bid for the final again," Mr Skates told the BBC.

Rugby supporters queued for up to four hours after the Ireland v Canada World Cup game in September 2015 and Great Western Railway apologised for underestimating passenger numbers.



Rugby fans queued for up to four hours following one Rugby World Cup game in Cardiff in 2015

"The scale of activity for the Champions League final is unprecedented and travel management logistics are on a different scale," said Mr Skates.

"There will be 15,000 more passenger spaces post-match than was at the Rugby World Cup, that is a huge increase in the number of places on trains.

"We're also going to have significant increase in capacity for trains to other parts of the UK (United Kingdom) where we know people are going to be staying such as Birmingham and Bristol."

"In terms of rail and the need to avoid any embarrassment, there is a joint working group involving all of the rail operators and Network Rail."

Real Madrid and Juventus are in commanding positions to reach the final after beating Atletico Madrid and Monaco respectively in the first leg of the semi-finals.
Media caption200 million will watch Champions League final from Cardiff

Network Rail said it was "fully on board" and the Welsh Government has been promised there will be no network disruptions or upgrade work taking place to minimise the risk of delays.

Bruce Williamson of Railway campaign group Railfuture said: "The reputational damage not having the required transport capacity after such a major international sporting event could be huge and extremely detrimental to Wales.

"We're glad Wales is placing so much emphasis on railway journeys and we hope, for their sake, they have learned from their mistakes as it could counter-productive to attracting more major events in the future."

As well as rail passengers, an estimated 25,000 people are expected to fly in and out of airports in Cardiff, Birmingham and Bristol.

Also, about 1,250 coaches will bring passengers in and out of Cardiff on 3 June.
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« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2017, 16:45:25 »

Excellent - it's good that GWR (Great Western Railway) have acknowledged previous failures, learned the lesson and are acting accordingly.....let's hope that this sets the pattern for provision for major sporting events in Cardiff and elsewhere in the future in order to avoid future embarrassment  Smiley
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« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2017, 17:21:51 »

I wonder who is paying for this. Given the FAW needed to demonstrate appropriate provision was in place I suspect there may be some financial agreement in place. Having the provision to run trains to London every 15 mins through the night whether or not they are used will not be cheap. Where they have learned the lessons of previous events is thinking more carefully as to where the crowd is likely to have come from. The problem with the Team GB (Great Britain) matches in the Olympics was that rather more fans than usual came from under the tunnel so the usual 6 nations type provision was woefully inadequate. 
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« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2017, 09:39:05 »

Juventus qualified last night.
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« Reply #7 on: May 12, 2017, 13:17:57 »

I understand that 3rd June "Weymouth Wizard" is to be loco hauled.  What loco not yet know. 
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« Reply #8 on: May 12, 2017, 13:20:27 »

I understand that 3rd June "Weymouth Wizard" is to be loco hauled.  What loco not yet know. 

Probably 'Lion' (LMR 57 0-4-2) from Titfield Thunderbolt !
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« Reply #9 on: May 12, 2017, 21:50:58 »

I'd heard a rumor about the Weymouth train on 3rd June as well. Is it too much to hope for a 37?! I have the day off work and think I'll be making a trip to the seaside if this happens.
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« Reply #10 on: May 12, 2017, 22:10:14 »

Is it too much to hope for a 37?!

Or how about 20227?

Probably a 67 or pair of them?
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« Reply #11 on: May 12, 2017, 22:12:57 »

Is it too much to hope for a 37?!

Or how about 20227?

Probably a 67 or pair of them?

Great stuff I'm sure................but what's it got to do with the Champions League final?  Wink
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« Reply #12 on: May 13, 2017, 07:33:06 »

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« Reply #13 on: May 13, 2017, 07:49:43 »

Best post you've ever made, Chris B !
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« Reply #14 on: May 13, 2017, 08:26:33 »

Best post you've ever made, Chris B !
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