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Author Topic: Cutdown 125's to operate Penzance to Plymouth clockface service  (Read 62259 times)
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« Reply #210 on: August 10, 2018, 07:34:15 am »

I have the perfect solution..................... why not create an 8-coach train, complete with buffet, 1st Class and Standard Class, and put a diesel with a single cab at each end to save having to run around the train.  I'm struggling for a name for it though.............. Ah, I have it...... "The InterCity High Speed Train"

Hmmmm ... I suppose that might do as a stop-gap solution for a few years while the "A" team works out what's really needed for the future  Grin
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« Reply #211 on: August 10, 2018, 08:01:42 am »

Was chatting to someone this evening who had been very impressed with the 2 + 4 HST, and was more so impressed when he learnt that there were more of them in the pipeline.

Once I had highlighted their primary role, this chap said that GWR had missed a trick by not using some of the space for a micro buffet for the commuters of Devon and Cornwall.

He has a point, could become quite sociable for regular communters.....

It would also have been nice to add a composite coach K to add first class for commuters traveling on a connected service.

I have the perfect solution..................... why not create an 8-coach train, complete with buffet, 1st Class and Standard Class, and put a diesel with a single cab at each end to save having to run around the train.  I'm struggling for a name for it though.............. Ah, I have it...... "The InterCity High Speed Train"

.......and use it to pootle between Plymouth & Penzance, at a "High Speed" of 40 mph stopping every 10 minutes?
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« Reply #212 on: August 10, 2018, 09:27:07 am »

Had a short trip on the GTi set from Penzance to Hayle yesterday, they are certainly quick off the mark, and nicely refurbished, shame there was pasty crumbs all over the place...something for GWR to address (cleanliness)??
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« Reply #213 on: August 10, 2018, 10:03:18 am »

Was chatting to someone this evening who had been very impressed with the 2 + 4 HST, and was more so impressed when he learnt that there were more of them in the pipeline.

Once I had highlighted their primary role, this chap said that GWR had missed a trick by not using some of the space for a micro buffet for the commuters of Devon and Cornwall.

He has a point, could become quite sociable for regular communters.....

Indeed, but provision of a buffet would result in unfortunate comparisons between the 40 year old HSTs and the brand new DMUs now in service.
"old trains still have buffets but new ones don't"
"local passengers still allowed a buffet, but longer distance customers denied this"

However much a buffet would be welcomed, it would look a bit daft to provide this on a local service but not on long distance trains.
A lot of effort has been put into trying to convince us that buffets are no longer needed. Providing one would be an admission of defeat.
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #214 on: August 10, 2018, 10:08:48 am »

It would also have been nice to add a composite coach K to add first class for commuters traveling on a connected service.

I agree, but current policy seems  to be to reduce first class provision, and when possible withdraw it.
Providing first class on a route that has not recently had first class would be regarded as a backwards step.

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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #215 on: August 10, 2018, 10:10:06 am »

Providing first class on a route that has not recently had first class would be regarded as a backwards step.
Sad but true.
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« Reply #216 on: August 10, 2018, 10:54:22 am »

Providing first class on a route that has not recently had first class would be regarded as a backwards step.
Sad but true.
….mmm.  Plenty of first class on other trains that use that route.  Mostly fairly empty at most times of the day Roll Eyes
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« Reply #217 on: August 10, 2018, 01:04:37 pm »

shame there was pasty crumbs all over the place...something for GWR to address (cleanliness)??

Better pasty crumbs than dog doodoo
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« Reply #218 on: August 10, 2018, 06:50:11 pm »

shame there was pasty crumbs all over the place...something for GWR to address (cleanliness)??

Better pasty crumbs than dog doodoo

“If you see something that doesn’t look right..
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Please do not leave your pasty unattended”
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« Reply #219 on: November 04, 2018, 06:16:31 pm »

And the second one is on delivery, GW02. Sadly there are no fully fitted kitchens on them, but it seems to come in half, sounds very familiar  Wink

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« Reply #220 on: February 23, 2019, 09:25:42 pm »

And the second one is on delivery, GW02. ...

I see pictures of no. 3 headed south today.  Have GW02 and GW03 got disabled loos / GW01 been retrofitted?
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« Reply #221 on: February 23, 2019, 09:41:41 pm »

As well as 'Chalets' [I refuse to use the other C***** description for the 2+4 sets], I understand that GWR also intend to run several 'Classic' sets - i.e. 2+4 slam-door sets
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« Reply #222 on: February 23, 2019, 09:51:16 pm »

As well as 'Chalets' [I refuse to use the other C***** description for the 2+4 sets], I understand that GWR also intend to run several 'Classic' sets - i.e. 2+4 slam-door sets

That must be a change ...but as there were supposed to be a darned site more than 3 around by now, I guess they'll need to for the half hourly Cornwall service in 3 months.  Aren't there classics running in Scotland too, with a wide publicity campaign telling people how to open doors  Grin
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« Reply #223 on: February 23, 2019, 11:40:10 pm »

All I know is that GW02 is still on crew training at St Philips.
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« Reply #224 on: February 26, 2019, 08:21:00 am »

According to information elsewhere GW03 moved from Doncaster to Bristol SPM last Saturday (23/02/2019).
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