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Author Topic: Cutdown 125's to operate Penzance to Plymouth clockface service  (Read 110121 times)
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« Reply #105 on: December 18, 2017, 08:54:46 »

Why are these trains sitting in Laira doing nothing when there is a desperate need for HST (High Speed Train) [...]

Because the Castle Class is new traction; they will have their own class number.
Therefore only a small number of staff currently sign them.

...........Aren't they just HSTs with 4 carriages rather than 8?
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« Reply #106 on: December 18, 2017, 10:15:46 »

Why are these trains sitting in Laira doing nothing when there is a desperate need for HST (High Speed Train) [...]

Because the Castle Class is new traction; they will have their own class number.
Therefore only a small number of staff currently sign them.

...........Aren't they just HSTs with 4 carriages rather than 8?

Braking characteristics are different, which is why they could be limited to a maximum of 75mph for a start.
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« Reply #107 on: December 18, 2017, 19:41:05 »


 Not many places between Plymouth and Penzance where they
 can run at 75 m.p.h. are their ?
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« Reply #108 on: December 18, 2017, 20:34:51 »


 Not many places between Plymouth and Penzance where they
 can run at 75 m.p.h. are their ?

No.  But they are also going to run to Exeter and Bristol as well.  Pleanty of 100mph+ track East of Starcross.
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« Reply #109 on: December 27, 2017, 23:33:22 »


 Not many places between Plymouth and Penzance where they
 can run at 75 m.p.h. are their ?

Hayle to Marazion
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« Reply #110 on: December 29, 2017, 21:06:19 »

So i presume with test runs taking place we're close to seeing these trains entering service, if so when might we see them? Will they arrive as the timetable changes next week?
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« Reply #111 on: December 29, 2017, 21:09:41 »

So i presume with test runs taking place we're close to seeing these trains entering service, if so when might we see them? Will they arrive as the timetable changes next week?

They haven't even been converted yet so won't see them for a while yet.
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« Reply #112 on: December 30, 2017, 05:51:27 »

The first set has been converted, testing took place earlier this month.
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« Reply #113 on: December 30, 2017, 07:20:13 »

The first set has been converted, testing took place earlier this month.
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« Reply #114 on: December 30, 2017, 08:09:07 »

The first set has been converted, testing took place earlier this month.
Picture at the bottom of Taunton Train News http://www.tauntontrains.co.uk/news

Just to be slightly pedantic, the set used in the test was not actually a converted set - just a 2+4 set using existing slam door stock and power cars going off-lease.
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« Reply #115 on: December 30, 2017, 08:54:21 »

Very good point Phil, 4 car testing has taken place, but the coaches hadn't been converted to power doors and other mods etc. Hopefully start running over the next few months
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« Reply #116 on: January 12, 2018, 13:56:25 »

Why are these trains sitting in Laira doing nothing when there is a desperate need for HST (High Speed Train) [...]

Because the Castle Class is new traction; they will have their own class number.
Therefore only a small number of staff currently sign them.

...........Aren't they just HSTs with 4 carriages rather than 8?

Braking characteristics are different, which is why they could be limited to a maximum of 75mph for a start.

It would be a great shame if they were limited to 75 mph.  Presumably if they were lengthened to 5 coaches the top speed could be eased up. 
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« Reply #117 on: January 12, 2018, 13:59:28 »

Someone involved in the project has been commenting on railforums regarding the ‘wibble’ that they hadn’t been converted yet, and confirmed the first set is almost ready to go with just several minor technical issues to resolve. He says it should be out within a month.
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« Reply #118 on: January 12, 2018, 14:43:47 »

A well placed source informs me the first set will be delivered to GWR (Great Western Railway) by 20th February. Into passenger service in March. Then one set a month. 12 sets in total.
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« Reply #119 on: January 12, 2018, 18:49:07 »

This corresponds with the information I have received
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