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Author Topic: Cutdown 125's to operate Penzance to Plymouth clockface service  (Read 28403 times)
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« Reply #180 on: April 14, 2018, 09:50:21 am »

While we're on the subject of the Cornish, I think this year marks the 175th anniversary of Camborne station (at which the train never stops on Wednesdays), making it the oldest station in continuous use in Cornwall.

Except on Wednesdays.

(I lived briefly in Camborne, and didn't know that!)
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« Reply #181 on: Yesterday at 03:44:25 pm »

I think that will depend on a), whether the TOC or ROSCO is paying for this upgrade, and b) who wins the next franchise. With these short-formed HSTs to be the only ones left with GWR at the end of this franchise, it may be commercial sense to go with more 80x stock than keep maintenance facilities for just a few HSTs?

The HST's & MK3 stock being modified is owned by First Group, so if they lose the franchise, whats to stop them taking the trains with them elsewhere?
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« Reply #182 on: Yesterday at 04:44:35 pm »

They could take them to TransPennine or SWR if they wanted. Whether they'd be needed there, or could be included in those franchises is debatable. Varying franchise agreements to add rolling stock, possibly reducing the use of already leased stock is difficult.

Far more likely is that FirstGroup will lease the stock they own to a successor TOC if the next Greater Western Invitation to Tender includes their use. To use them as a bargaining tool or to hold the DfT to ransom won't wash. The DfT could equally specify a tender that doesn't include them long term, instead requesting that bidders look to acquire new build.

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