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« Reply #195 on: June 17, 2018, 09:10:28 am »

One of the advantages of the HST service was the luggage capacity for carrying buggies, picnic baskets and other beach time paraphernalia.
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« Reply #196 on: June 17, 2018, 09:29:14 am »

Interesting you raise the Weymouth line Graham and sort of staying on topic, last year regular users of the Weymouth line had a full length HST to enjoy on summer Saturdays. A crowd buster if ever there was one and a comfortable one at that too. Now itís gone itís going to be noticed if a two or three car train takes its place rather than something like a 5 car service.

As I understand it however the HST was never full, so perhaps as you say something "in between" would be about right - 5 car Turbo?

The problem with the HST was that it was an SST (Slow Speed Train) over the Heart of Wessex.   The previous unit - a five car 15x - was always rammed with the 8 car HST being 30 minutes later off Bristol and 60 minutes later into Weymouth having a relatively light loading.    This year, with 2 x 16x services of 5 cars each plus an SWR train from Yeovil to Weymouth (onward to Corfe Castle) should work - about the same capacity over the busiest section of the route by far. However, you halve the length of at least one of the key trains on a nice day and you are going to have problems.   I did not look at the second trains to see how long that was ... but I did note just 3 carriages on the 17:30 back which again would be tight.

Not much good scheduling a mass transit crowd buster to cover your high peak ... and running a single suburban unit on it.   At least the trip with the solitary 153 was not at peak time.
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« Reply #197 on: June 17, 2018, 09:30:10 am »

One of the advantages of the HST service was the luggage capacity for carrying buggies, picnic baskets and other beach time paraphernalia.

A "nice to have", however elsewhere there isn't capacity for people, so the priorities for allocation of stock are clear.
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« Reply #198 on: June 17, 2018, 11:20:40 am »

Just to add to the fun, the additional (crowd buster) BRI-WEY service was yesterday cancelled beyond WSB due to "a train fault." No doubt plenty of happy punters with an enforced wait at WSB for the following service which would probably be rammed.
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« Reply #199 on: June 17, 2018, 06:47:53 pm »

I had a 3 car 166 last Bank holiday and it was so crowded and late I have vowed not to ever use that line again.
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« Reply #200 on: June 17, 2018, 06:53:50 pm »

I had a 3 car 166 last Bank holiday and it was so crowded and late I have vowed not to ever use that line again.

I try to avoid a "my line is worse than yours" type fight for the bottom rungs of the ladder - but it was interesting to hear Mark Hopwood single out four services - North Cotswolds, Heart of Wessex, TransWilts and Severn Beach that have been especially badly hit by recent (rail definitions of recent - from April 2017) problem.   It provides some re-assurance that we're not just crying wolf or shouting louder than others - it confirms that we have real problems that it's right to shout about.
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« Reply #201 on: July 02, 2018, 09:59:42 am »

Back to Devon & Cornwall and it seems the 2+4 Castle set has been replaced by a 2+3 HST set with slam doors.
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« Reply #202 on: July 02, 2018, 10:03:08 am »

Back to Devon & Cornwall and it seems the 2+4 Castle set has been replaced by a 2+3 HST set with slam doors.
According to the WNXX Forum its so that the 4-car set can go away for its C4 overhaul (service).  Of course that won't happen when more 4-car sets are in service (says he, with tounge in cheek).
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« Reply #203 on: July 24, 2018, 03:09:10 pm »

Back in service today .... Truro ..... 1257 Penzance to Newton Abbot due 1549

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« Reply #204 on: July 25, 2018, 09:19:09 pm »

Back in service today .... Truro ..... 1257 Penzance to Newton Abbot due 1549



Saw this unit at Exeter St Davids this morning, working in and out from Newton Abbot direction. Much preferable to a 150 coupled to a 153, especially if you are headed into the Duchy.
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« Reply #205 on: July 25, 2018, 09:23:44 pm »

By the left hand side?  Tongue
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« Reply #206 on: July 25, 2018, 10:26:54 pm »

By the left hand side?  Tongue

The QE2 frequently did...
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« Reply #207 on: August 09, 2018, 09:00:36 pm »

Was chatting to someone this evening who had been very impressed with the 2 + 4 HST, and was more so impressed when he learnt that there were more of them in the pipeline.

Once I had highlighted their primary role, this chap said that GWR had missed a trick by not using some of the space for a micro buffet for the commuters of Devon and Cornwall.

He has a point, could become quite sociable for regular communters.....
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« Reply #208 on: August 09, 2018, 11:29:09 pm »

It would also have been nice to add a composite coach K to add first class for commuters traveling on a connected service.
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« Reply #209 on: August 10, 2018, 07:17:32 am »

Was chatting to someone this evening who had been very impressed with the 2 + 4 HST, and was more so impressed when he learnt that there were more of them in the pipeline.

Once I had highlighted their primary role, this chap said that GWR had missed a trick by not using some of the space for a micro buffet for the commuters of Devon and Cornwall.

He has a point, could become quite sociable for regular communters.....

It would also have been nice to add a composite coach K to add first class for commuters traveling on a connected service.

I have the perfect solution..................... why not create an 8-coach train, complete with buffet, 1st Class and Standard Class, and put a diesel with a single cab at each end to save having to run around the train.  I'm struggling for a name for it though.............. Ah, I have it...... "The InterCity High Speed Train"
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