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« Reply #30 on: July 05, 2017, 15:32:36 »

Using Apple product? I believe my hotlinks don't work on iOS browsers. I'm only temporarily using Google Drive to host images until I've got my own photo hosting website set up. Later this month after I've moved house.

Strangely not working in either Safari on iOS or IE via Windows, hence why I though I'd mention it in case you had some IT issues you were otherwise unaware of  Smiley
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« Reply #31 on: July 05, 2017, 15:38:48 »

I was made aware of the Safari issues. I know they display on Chrome, as that is what I use.

Once I've sorted my own host any photo links since Photobucket went expensive will be edited to new host.
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« Reply #32 on: July 05, 2017, 16:13:52 »

Works fine on Firefox for Windows (54.0.1) FWIW (for what it's worth).
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« Reply #33 on: July 05, 2017, 17:45:32 »

BNM your pictures work just fine on both of my iPads.
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« Reply #34 on: July 05, 2017, 18:33:37 »

It is strange - I can see them fine on both iPhone and iPad.   I don't have an Apple computer.
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« Reply #35 on: July 05, 2017, 19:04:33 »

Seemingly a Mac issue then. Anyone have issues with IE or Edge on a PC?
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« Reply #36 on: July 05, 2017, 19:05:58 »

Not here.
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« Reply #37 on: July 06, 2017, 10:59:03 »

I was made aware of the Safari issues. I know they display on Chrome, as that is what I use.

Once I've sorted my own host any photo links since Photobucket went expensive will be edited to new host.

I use Chrome, and I can't see them. I am currently downloading my bucket. I have almost everything backed up on hard drives too.
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« Reply #38 on: July 27, 2017, 06:41:57 »

Following up on the Photobucket issues at the start of this month, Bobm and I have now rehosted the images from our most major users that they have used in existing posts on our own servers.  The post contents have not been changed; rather, I have modified the forum code to map the photobucket web addresses in posts to the replacement addresses where the images are stored un-encumbered.

Images we're already hosting (and any others we rehost - there are 2 or 3 smaller sets we still could) appear correctly in existing posts and quotes of those posts too.  They will also appear correctly if used in new posts.   But neither Bob nor I are offering a replacement service for Photobucket which provides the photograph's owners any edit / replace / add to collection facilities - essentially they're an archive, and that archive's uneditable.   Should there be reason to amend a thread so that it no longer shows an image in the future (very rare indeed, but it has happened), we would advise the picture owners to go back and edit their posts that refer to it, to remove the reference or point to an alternative elsewhere; either Bobm or I could also delete images from the archive "in extremes" but the post(s) would need altering anyway if the thread owners didn't want to be showing a broken image.

The Coffee Shop software offers limited hosting of attachments that can be added onto the end of posts - currently we have 2,831 such attachments in our database.   These are of limited size and number per post, and do no appear in-line but as smaller "postage stamps" you can click on at the base of posts, and even these postage stamps are not shown on the "recent posts" display.   Attachments are not suitable for use as a general replacement of in-line images, and at the Coffee Shop we won't be offering a replacement facility to store and serve your pictures as the basic Photobucket account used to do, and the $399 account there still does.   There are other facilities around (I haven't noticed a huge drop in images, so most of you are using something else  Cheesy ) and posts with recommendations and comments as to alternative systems are welcome.   Those of us with our own web service provision (be it dedicated, virtual or shared hosting) also have the alternative of hosting our own images, subject to limitations on the amount of space and bandwidth we pay for;  on my own server, I have nearly 12,000 images for use all over the place, and most of which are distinctly off topic for the forum.

I have some sympathy with the problem that the company running Photobucket  found themselves with - hosting a lot of data for free, yet having to pay for the hosts to hold it.  They are probably not the only hosting service that fallen into this model, with something that started as a little loss leader to attract custom for profitable services having become a drain they can't or won't sustain.   I'm not discussing the legality of their approach to a solution, but it's certainly questionable in terms of breaking a trust they had built up with their base of users, and the web being - err - a web, effects propagate over threads of the web such as the issues it caused in some of our poster's content here, and beyond those posters to people viewing their posts.

Photobucket are probably not the only free content hosting service that find or found themselves providing a service that cost more to provide than the income that was gained (heck, the Coffee Shop falls into that category!!) and so it has to be a very strong recommendation indeed that users keep excellent backups of everything which they cherish - not only images, but other content hosted elsewhere on the web too.



I have veered off what I was intending to write here ...

As members switch from one image hoster to another, facilities offered in terms of embedding may change.  In particular, your new service may give you less image scaling capability.  You can use the width= attribute on the img tag here to resize the image, but please bear in mind that the whole image will be downloaded when your post is browsed and this may effect our visitor's bandwidth.

Example:

Here is a normal sized breakfast:



and here is a smaller breakfast:



and I can also put the breakfast in the centre too rather than have it nearly falling off the edge


code (with added spaces to ensure I display the code and don't have the images show up here!

Original:
[ img ]http://www.wellho.net/pix/bonybreakfast.jpg[ /img ]

Smaller:
[ img width=400 ]http://www.wellho.net/pix/bonybreakfast.jpg[ /img ]

Smaller and centered:
[ center ][ img width=400 ]http://www.wellho.net/pix/bonybreakfast.jpg[ /img ][ /center ]
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« Reply #39 on: July 27, 2017, 09:37:19 »

Once I have Internet access up and running at my new address (working to BT timescales so thatll be sometime this summer!) I will be hosting images on my own dedicated website.
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« Reply #40 on: July 27, 2017, 09:44:48 »




Why did you have to use that image? I'm hungry now...  Grin
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« Reply #41 on: July 27, 2017, 15:53:36 »

Wot no Mushrooms or Black Pudding!
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« Reply #42 on: July 27, 2017, 15:58:49 »

Wot no Mushrooms or Black Pudding!

I asked for Black Pudding but they had run out ... it's very popular indeed in some parts!
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« Reply #43 on: July 29, 2017, 20:06:05 »

Thank you, grahame, for restoring my images to my earlier posts.

I began researching alternatives to Photobucket as a means of enabling me to post images on the forum. Then I remembered that I had a Flickr account, which came free with my internet service, when BT was allied to Yahoo. When they separated, I thought I had lost the access, and as I hadn't used it much, didn't bother looking any further. However, as I tried to sign up, it became apparent that I still had an account. A bit of password recovery later, and I was in, my old photos still intact.

Unless I have some sort of legacy privilege, it seems all you need is a Yahoo email address, and that is free of charge. Maximum storage is 1TB. Sharing to a Coffee Shop post is similar to using Photobucket. There is a choice of size when obtaining the link from the BB Code tab. The link itself is more detailed than the PB [ IMG] data. You can display it all, including your account name, or you delete everything before [ IMG] and after [ /IMG] to simply post the picture with no other information.

Other similar sites are, no doubt, available.  I also deplore the absence of black pudding and, to a lesser extent. mushrooms.

Should this thread be preserved as a sticky once a few more suggestions have been included?
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« Reply #44 on: November 06, 2018, 07:25:40 »

Revisiting this dormant topic with some not very recent news. Found after I was researching the upcoming changes to Flickr as posted here: http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=20623.0

Photobucket had a change of CEO (Chief Executive Officer) in March 2018. The new boss quickly and quietly changed the terms of service and subscription plans. Since May 2018 Photobucket has offered much more reasonable pricing covering storage and third party hosting (hotlinking). They also restored all the hotlinks (many millions of images across t'web) that were previously disabled and held to ransom.

No longer do Photobucket users have to pay $399 for a plan that incudes hotlinking. Plans now start at around $4 a month for 25GB of storage. All plans allow you to "embed images anywhere without watermarks".

Welcome changes. Too late for many of us former Photobucket users though. I downloaded all my content off their site and I've no intention of going back. The consequence of their folly is that I now embed far fewer images on this website. You'll note I've not posted a multi-image quiz for ages. What they did has also made me very wary of using other storage/hosting websites for more than just the odd image. I'm down to just using physical media and Google Drive for storage, and online only hosting (imgBB) for the odd individual photo every now and then.. I recently also used Microsoft's Onedrive for storage, but they too have an impending change of terms of service, cutting the free plan from 15GB to 5GB, with deletion of content if its not moved or paid for. The new pricing structure was not affordable for me, so content there was moved to Google Drive.

I never did get round to building my own website for hosting and hotlinking. Again, finances precluded. Without getting too self personal, I'm having to live very frugally at the moment, thanks to the.... no, best not go there. That's for family and close friends only.  Lips sealed

What Photobucket did was one of the worst examples of a corporate mistake, ransoming content and treating users with contempt. They also created headaches for thousands of website administrators worldwide. From the little giants like this Coffee Shop, to web behemoths such as Amazon and eBay. I'm sure grahame and bobm would rather not have had to put in the hours recovering as much as they did.

I think it's clear that Photobucket lost more than just a CEO after the decision to do what they did. They now have just 10 employees, when once there were 120. I imagine the uptake of their previous extortionate plans didn't stem losses. I'm certain that they've a long way to go to repair goodwill. I'm pretty sure they no longer have anywhere near 100 million users.

News item from May 2018: https://www.bizjournals.com/denver/news/2018/05/17/photobucket-drops-pricing-that-angered-millions.html

Photobucket's current pricing structure: http://photobucket.com/plans/



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