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« on: July 07, 2017, 08:32:53 »

From the Wiltshire Times

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MILLIONS of pounds worth of damage to buildings in Trowbridge and Bradford on Avon are being caused by freight trains, a local architect has claimed.

Martin Valatin, of St Margaret’s Hill, Bradford on Avon, believes that the vibrations caused by heavy freight trains have damaged the roof of County Hall, which had to be repaired in 2003 and then again in 2014/15, at a cost of more than £800,000.

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He argues that in order to reduce the damage, which he thinks is a problem across the country, the rail industry needs to slow the heavy freight trains down.

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Comments within and added to the end of the article indicate that not everyone agrees with Martin's views  Wink
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« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2017, 08:36:58 »

I'm surprised he didn't also point the finger of blame at all those additional passenger trains that have been running up and down through Trowbridge since Dec 2013.
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« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2017, 09:14:53 »

And no doubt cows will yield sour milk, hens will cease to lay, horses become extinct, and anyone riding upon one of these "fire breathing iron monsters" at more than 25 MPH will be suffocated by the rush of the wind.

Or to bring it up to date, pigeons will explode, newts be endangered, and property prices reduced.
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« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2017, 09:26:49 »

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Martin Valatin, of St Margaret’s Hill, Bradford on Avon

Would it be too cynical to imagine that Mr. Valatin's house might be near the railway too...?
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« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2017, 09:48:01 »

It's doesn't take much research to confirm that your imagination is fairly close to the truth.
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« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2017, 09:52:03 »

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Martin Valatin, of St Margaret’s Hill, Bradford on Avon

Would it be too cynical to imagine that Mr. Valatin's house might be near the railway too...?

A quick Google search and look at maps will show you that St Margaret's Hill runs up from the town onto the hill above the railway tunnel between the station and the river. No 34 doesn't actually appear to be directly above the tunnel, but it may be close enough to hear trains and perhaps feel vibrations as they go through.

I am not posting any personal data here that wouldn't be easily found by a member of the public online if they looked

It's doesn't take much research to confirm that your imagination is fairly close to the truth.

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« Reply #6 on: July 07, 2017, 09:59:52 »

.............I'm about 100 yards from the GWML (Great Western Main Line) and only a few miles from Heathrow, noise/vibration issues are real but everyone chooses where they live...........to be honest I rarely notice it, in fact the GWML was strangely silent last night!  Wink
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« Reply #7 on: July 07, 2017, 10:38:07 »

I wonder whether he did his homework before moving in? You'd think, as an architect, he would know how....
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« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2017, 11:43:51 »

It's over six months since Oxford to Bicester reopened.  Shouldn't all the houses in north Oxford have been reduced to rubble by now?
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« Reply #9 on: July 07, 2017, 12:17:08 »

We have a house under the rail viaduct at angarrack. Only train I notice is the night riviera normally, or the occasional charter. I don't notice the regular stuff
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« Reply #10 on: July 07, 2017, 13:38:24 »

It's over six months since Oxford to Bicester reopened.  Shouldn't all the houses in north Oxford have been reduced to rubble by now?
I'm still waiting for the announcement that the Class 387s are going to be retrofitted as bi-mode, in order that the electrification can be removed through the Goring Gap.
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« Reply #11 on: July 07, 2017, 14:01:13 »

I reckon you've a long wait for that one!
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« Reply #12 on: July 07, 2017, 21:39:27 »


I understand that there are one or two stretches of railway tunnel close to building foundations in  London. Of course London would not experience anything like the intensity of traffic of Trowbridge or Bradford upon Avon, so could not expect to experience the same Jericho Walls effect.

As for the Goring Gap, I was going to suggest, in an equally serious vein, that twin 8m tunnels could be bored between Pangbourne and Didcot. However given a cost (HS2 (The next High Speed line(s))/European averages) of c£50M/km and all that steelwork not needed, with clip on overhead conductor rail, it might even have worked out cheaper....

Alternatively, rather than bi-mode 387's, there's still traction available at Didcot MPD (Motive Power Depot) to haul through the gap. The smoke and steam would hide the ugly series 1 OLE (Overhead Line Equipment, more often "OHLE").

Welcome to the summer silly season.

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« Reply #13 on: July 07, 2017, 22:43:42 »

I reckon you've a long wait for that one!
I do hope you're right!
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