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« Reply #105 on: September 08, 2018, 06:48:42 pm »

Modern cars are wider ....   

Wish someone would tell that to the nations housebuilders.
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« Reply #106 on: September 08, 2018, 07:22:06 pm »

Modern cars are wider ....   

Wish someone would tell that to the nations housebuilders.

You want to put a car in the garage!  Shocked
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« Reply #107 on: September 08, 2018, 07:46:51 pm »

Many local authorities now require garages to be at least 3.0m wide to count as one of the required parking space
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« Reply #108 on: September 08, 2018, 07:56:40 pm »

Many local authorities now require garages to be at least 3.0m wide to count as one of the required parking space

The door opening you get in an 8x16 garage is pretty limited - are you sure that requirement isn't more to do with the increased size of people than cars? In any case, it leaves a bit of a reverse compatibility issue with, in particular, built-in garages.

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« Reply #109 on: September 12, 2018, 12:42:38 pm »

Plymouth council yesterday approved 26m funding towards the stat ion remodelling. Work is due to start soon..

http://plymouthnewsroom.co.uk/plans-create-new-gateway-plymouth-railway-station-set-green-light/

There is also a new artist impression floating around showing a redesigned large new concourse which looks really smart.
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« Reply #110 on: September 12, 2018, 02:27:23 pm »

Modern cars are wider - presumably to provide better side impact protection. Some are much wider than others and these do not fit well in previous standard 2.4m x 4.8m spaces (8ft x 16ft in old money). The 4 wheel drive models are a particular problem. This is a more of a problem in older multi-storey car parks where there is typically a pillar every 2 or 3 spaces so cannot simply repaint the lines.   

The biggest problem with the car park at Plymouth is the ramps to change levels. The curvature is too tight for modern larger cars and the walls are covered in scrape marks of every conceivable colour. It was designed for British Leyland Minis and Hillman Imps...
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« Reply #111 on: September 12, 2018, 03:04:52 pm »

You can get a 1999 Vauxhall Zafira around said car park with no problems. I've done so. Bit bigger than Issigonis' and the Rootes brother's finest.

If you are careful and know where your four corners are. And I'm by no meeasure an experienced driver. Only been doing it legally for 18 months...
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« Reply #112 on: September 12, 2018, 03:15:13 pm »

I couldn't help but wonder where on earth Plymouth City Council found a sofa big enough to find 26 million down the back of...

Plymouth Railway Station Regeneration Part 1 Briefing Report

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To allocate the sum 26.75m for the project to the Capital Programme funded by loan, land receipts, corporate borrowing and a grant from GD3 LEP.
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« Reply #113 on: September 17, 2018, 07:45:20 am »

Here's the link to the 'artists impressions' mentioned by Plymboi above:
http://plymouthnewsroom.co.uk/plymouth-railway-station-look-like/

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« Reply #114 on: September 17, 2018, 09:43:12 am »

Only issue is the concourse seems to be just a further extention of the current layout. The concourse is very small and needs major reworking in my eyes.  Also hoping the platforms are spruced up they are rather grim right now.

The escalators outosde going down are very modern and so unlike Plymouth and I love it. Makes Plymouth feel more of a modern up and coming city.
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« Reply #115 on: September 17, 2018, 03:02:01 pm »

Only 5 million of that 26 million actaully comes from PCC itself, the rest of that package comes from various other sources. As for the car park itself, well in order to create a station gateway fit for the 21st century and create a direct pedestrian access to the city centre the existing car park has to be demolished and rebuilt elsewhere.
Currently Plymouths semi derelict station is an embarrassment for a city of Plymouth's size and aspersions so the sooner this happens the better for all concerned.
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« Reply #116 on: September 17, 2018, 04:10:37 pm »

Only 5 million of that 26 million actaully comes from PCC itself, the rest of that package comes from various other sources.

I'm afraid this is incorrect. I've been in touch with Plymouth City Council today, and they have confirmed to me that they are receiving a grant contribution of 5 million from the Heart of the South West LEP and Cornwall LEP, so the Council contribution will be 21.75 million.

As is shown in this document, aside from the LEP grants, this will be funded by loan, land receipts and corporate borrowing. The council intends to utilise its property assets and borrowing capacity to lever in what it describes as "significant private sector investment".
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« Reply #117 on: September 19, 2018, 04:03:17 pm »

Must of misread this article.
https://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/news/business/demolition-begin-100m-railway-station-1969115
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« Reply #118 on: September 19, 2018, 04:17:51 pm »

You didn't misread it woody - The article does indeed say "The city council has also pledged 5million". Wires crossed with the 5 million in total pledged by the LEPs methinks.
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« Reply #119 on: September 19, 2018, 04:27:50 pm »

Only 5 million of that 26 million actaully comes from PCC itself, the rest of that package comes from various other sources.

I'm afraid this is incorrect. I've been in touch with Plymouth City Council today, and they have confirmed to me that they are receiving a grant contribution of 5 million from the Heart of the South West LEP and Cornwall LEP, so the Council contribution will be 21.75 million.

As is shown in this document, aside from the LEP grants, this will be funded by loan, land receipts and corporate borrowing. The council intends to utilise its property assets and borrowing capacity to lever in what it describes as "significant private sector investment".

Who actually owns/manages Plymouth station? If it's Network Rail, shouldn't they be picking up the bill?
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