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Author Topic: Great Western Main Line electrification - ongoing discussion  (Read 201724 times)
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« Reply #1095 on: September 15, 2021, 04:38:37 pm »

Was it just coincidence that the announcement was made in Inexperiencedwich?
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« Reply #1096 on: September 15, 2021, 06:46:20 pm »

Dunno, but in French doesn't inexperience mean "unexperimented" ie untested?

Not quite - though those two words are jumbled together meaningwise in French.
Ah, it seems experience = experiment as a noun but not as a verb. At least if Google is to be trusted...  Undecided
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« Reply #1097 on: September 16, 2021, 11:29:47 am »

I would regard railway electrification using existing and well understood technology to be a higher priority than research into automated submarines.
Likewise electrification of urban buses by means of trolley wires or batteries.

And generating a lot more electricity from proven wind and solar power, there is little point in replacing diesel fuel with imported natural gas used to generate the electricity.
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« Reply #1098 on: September 16, 2021, 02:40:46 pm »

I would regard railway electrification using existing and well understood technology to be a higher priority than research into automated submarines.
Likewise electrification of urban buses by means of trolley wires or batteries.
So would I, but neither buses nor trains would be much use for Glasgow-Belfast.
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« Reply #1099 on: September 16, 2021, 02:44:26 pm »

I would regard railway electrification using existing and well understood technology to be a higher priority than research into automated submarines.
Likewise electrification of urban buses by means of trolley wires or batteries.
So would I, but neither buses nor trains would be much use for Glasgow-Belfast.

But they'll go across that bridge!
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« Reply #1100 on: September 16, 2021, 03:01:02 pm »

I would regard railway electrification using existing and well understood technology to be a higher priority than research into automated submarines.
Likewise electrification of urban buses by means of trolley wires or batteries.
So would I, but neither buses nor trains would be much use for Glasgow-Belfast.

But they'll go across that bridge!

I have seen reports that the Treasury has put a stop to any plans for such bridge. 
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« Reply #1101 on: September 16, 2021, 05:09:47 pm »


I remember hearing a Transport Union leader being asked about his plans replying:

"I'm going to jump off that bridge when I come to it".

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« Reply #1102 on: September 24, 2021, 02:37:05 pm »


Ah, it seems experience = experiment as a noun but not as a verb. At least if Google is to be trusted...  Undecided

Any noun can be verbed.
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« Reply #1103 on: September 24, 2021, 02:59:09 pm »

Any noun can be verbed.

I think you have nailed it.
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« Reply #1104 on: September 24, 2021, 06:03:59 pm »

Chaque nom peut être verbé et vous l'avez clouté.
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Ah, it seems experience = experiment as a noun but not as a verb. At least if Google is to be trusted...  Undecided

Any noun can be verbed.

But can such verbing in English be Frenched?
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« Reply #1106 on: September 24, 2021, 06:54:15 pm »

Chaque nom peut être verbé et vous l'avez clouté.

Merci, Bmblbzzz, comme toujours.


But can such verbing in English be Frenched?

Ja, es ist möglich, denke ich.
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« Reply #1107 on: September 27, 2021, 07:30:44 pm »

I still think we should get the gwml electrified sll the way to Swansea.

387143 visited Newport and Cardiff today on the 1sr daytime training run to south wales for the 387s
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« Reply #1108 on: September 30, 2021, 07:05:29 pm »

I still think we should get the gwml electrified sll the way to Swansea.
So do I, but I also still think we need a capacity intervention (either a new shorter and straighter GWML (Great Western Main Line) between Cardiff and Bridgend, effectively making it a 4-track railway, or some passenger loops AT STATIONS between Cardiff and Bridgend on the existing GWML to allow fast trains to overtake stoppers) first. While we are waiting for that we should get the GWML electrified to Bristol (the remodelling is done now) and possibly Oxford (depending on whether the planned remodelling would have a significant impact on the OHLE if the wires were done first).
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« Reply #1109 on: September 30, 2021, 08:19:48 pm »

If any of the long campaigned for stations between Bristol and Chippenham (St Anne's, Saltford, Corsham) were to come into being after the electrification was done, would that be much more complicated than putting the stations in then the knitting?
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