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« on: September 13, 2017, 04:25:19 PM »

Found this on Yahoo.

Wheelie bins in Cambridge are about to be replaced…

The familiar sight of a wheelie bin in a front garden could soon be a thing of the past, after a UK city installed underground bins for residents to use.

The complex system, which has been introduced in north west Cambridgeshire, sees steel bin chutes being set into the pavement before they are then fed into larger underground chambers.

When the chambers are full, a sensor is then set off to alert and trigger a collection lorry.

The system has removed almost 9,000 bins, but it has also come with serious warnings that people could become stuck in a bottomless pit they choose to climb in.

Checked the calendar and it's definitely not April 1st.
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« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2017, 04:31:22 PM »

Can see "Rubbishburg" headlines, similar to the fatburgs found in sewer pipes....
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« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2017, 04:45:27 PM »

The complex system, which has been introduced in north west Cambridgeshire, sees steel bin chutes being set into the pavement before they are then fed into larger underground chambers.

Except ... not "north west Cambridgeshire", but Eddington, a new housing development in north west Cambridge. It's being built by the University, partly to house its graduate students and researchers without driving house prices through the roof. However, it will come complete with shops, schools, etc. so how you'll get to live there isn't clear (to me).

So this rubbish system is not introduced as in replacing anything, but there from scratch. I think it's all flats and high density housing (at least so far), so you'd otherwise have centralised waste "sheds" anyway. The picture don't show chutes with entrances in the pavement, but oversize bollard thingies (is there a word for that?):

But why let a fact get between a journalist [sic] and their story ..
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« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2017, 01:10:01 AM »

They've had these quite widely across the Netherlands for many years, focused mainly on more densely populated parts of towns and cities. Seem to work fairly well from what I can see, although the 'general refuse' bins do tend to get a bit stinky in warm weather. A good idea to centralise refuse collection and take the storage of said refuge away from the immediate vicinity of people's homes.
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« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2017, 07:40:55 AM »

Refuse chutes were used quite a lot in high rise buildings int he past, but they sometimes became blocked and the positioning of the store in the basement or ground floor of the block was a fire risk. They have not been preferred recently.  It will be interesting to see how different these are. 
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« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2017, 08:22:04 AM »

Those which I referred to in the Netherlands look a bit like a normal street bin above the surface with a hatch on the top which goes directly into a large underground container. In nearly 4 years of living there I never saw an overflowing or blocked one, nor a full litter bin on the street for that matter.

Best pic I could find is here:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recycling_in_the_Netherlands#/media/File%3AAmsterdam_recycling.jpg

Rubbish day rules are strictly enforced by the (armed) bin police, to the point they rummage through any errant black bags to identify its owner....!
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« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2017, 09:05:15 AM »

The same idea is used quite widely, but for recycling, in France. There is a "borne" above ground, which may be small or big enough to provide a chest-height entrance. These can appear in main streets and squares, where you wouldn't see the old bins and skips. Whether they really are that attractive is debatable - though at least the smell should be less (if not entirely absent).

If you do a Google image search on "bornes enterres" (!) you'll get pages of the things!
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« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2017, 12:00:30 PM »

Sorry, I omitted the fact that they're used for materials for recycling, compostables and general landfill waste in NL.

The article I posted the photo from is quite enlightening about the rates of recycling in NL, where landfills are used for less than 10% of total waste. We could probably learn a few lessons from our beclogged neighbours. We probably wouldn't need wheelie bins if we recycled that much!
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« Reply #8 on: September 21, 2017, 08:00:51 PM »

Meanwhile in Bath...
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The controversial roll-out of wheelie bins to most Bath homes is set to begin next week.

An estimated 61,500 households across Bath and North East Somerset will get a wheelie bin delivered in the roll-out starting Monday, September 25.

Another 17,500 will be given a black re-usable gull-proof bag.

The new rubbish receptacles are being delivered ahead of changes to bin collections in a couple of months.

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But not everyone is happy with what they are getting, with the council declining about two in every five requests to switch to the alternative.

From November 6, the council will be collecting rubbish every other week in wheeled bins or re-usable bags for the majority of residents.

“The changes will help to keep the streets cleaner, increase recycling and make the services more affordable,” according to the local authority.

Recycling – including food waste – will continue to be collected weekly. The chargeable garden waste collections will remain every other week.

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The council is warning residents to expect their new rubbish receptacle next week.

“From 25 September to early November the council will deliver wheeled bins or re-usable rubbish bags to around 78,000 households.

“Please continue to put out your rubbish as you normally do until the new collection starts.

“It is important that you do not use your new wheeled bin or re-usable rubbish bag until the new collection starts as we won’t be able to collect it.


Councillor Bob Goodman (Image: paul@paulgillisphoto.com)
Councillor Bob Goodman (Conservative, Combe Down), Cabinet Member for Development and Neighbourhoods, said: “The Council has held over 100 recycling roadshows and talks across Bath and North East Somerset between September 2016 and August 2017, to help our residents to get ready for the changes – which will help encourage people to recycle more, keep streets clean and save money.

“In addition, we’ve listened to those residents who have asked for a change to their bin allocation, and we have made a number of changes, where possible, in response to their individual circumstances.

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“In over half the cases, processed so far, where residents have requested a different bin or bag, the council has agreed to this request.”

Rachel Graydon, from Camerton, is glad to be getting a wheelie bin.


Rachel Graydon, pictured with her son, is looking forward to getting a wheelie bin (Image: Bath and North East Somerset Council)
She said: “We’re looking forward to getting a wheeled bin because we have lots of cats near us that tear the bin bags open.”

The local authority has provided the following advice for residents.

How will the bins and bags be delivered?

The wheeled bins will be delivered to the front edge of your property with a printed address label on the back and a welcome pack tucked into the lid. It is fine if you wish to decorate your bin, such as adding a bin wrap or painting your house number on, but the bin does remain the property of the Council.

If you have been allocated a re-usable rubbish bag it will be delivered to your door and your welcome pack put through your letter box. If you already have a re-usable rubbish bag please use your new one from 6 November. We will collect old re-useable bags at the end of October so that everyone is using the best containers for the new service.

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Your welcome pack will include:

• An 8 page leaflet with full information on how to use the new service and a reminder of all the things you can recycle each week

• A new collection calendar for 2017-18 showing your collection day and Christmas collection information - please check carefully as your collection day is likely to have changed. To help you get used to your new collection day you can sign up for texts for the first 3 months to remind you when your collection is due. Text your postcode to 07520 631700 to receive a reminder

• Two stickers for you to put on your green boxes to help you sort your recycling

You can check whether you have been allocated a bin or bag by entering your address at www.bathnes.gov.uk/recycle or contacting Council Connect.

If you have a query with your allocation please contact the Council Connect waste enquiry line on 01225 39 40 00. Where households have 2 or more children in nappies, 6 or more people in their household or a clear medical need they may be able to apply for a larger bin.

Council Connect will talk through your needs, and then if appropriate pass on your request for a change of container. We will contact you to let you know the outcome of your request. In the meantime, your original allocated container will be delivered to you before the start of the new collection. If we agree to issue an alternative container, we will then exchange them.

Why are the changes being introduced?

• To recycle more:

Bath & North East Somerset Council has a very comprehensive recycling collection service where you can already recycle 17 different types of household waste every week, but some residents could recycle more. About 75% of a household’s waste can be recycled using the current collections, but over half of an average rubbish bag consists of items that could have been recycled. The change will also help to encourage everyone to use their food recycling collection – only about 50% of households currently use this. About a third of the waste in black sacks currently is food.

• To keep our streets cleaner:

Containing rubbish in a bin will prevent animals and birds ripping open plastic bags and making a mess which is unpleasant for everyone and costly to clear up.

• To save money:

Every lorry load of waste costs £1,000 to dispose of whilst every lorry load of recycling earns an income of £100. So reducing the amount put out as rubbish is essential, because the amount of money the Council has to spend is reducing significantly overall.

Help to recycle more

• Please make sure you recycle all you can, including your food waste. You can order extra free recycling containers at www.bathnes.gov.uk/orderacontainer

If you prefer, you can collect recycling containers at one of our three Recycling Centres, rather than wait for one to be delivered.

• Check our website for the latest updates about the changes. Check to see if your query is answered in over 30 FAQs we have on our website www.bathnes.gov.uk/recycle

• Visit one of our roadshows to see the new containers and find out more. Go to www.bathnes.gov.uk/roadshows

• Try using re-usable nappies to help reduce your rubbish. To help you we are selling packs of Bambino Mio re-usable nappies for £150 (£100 less than the retail price) www.bathnes.gov.uk/realnappies

• Keen to keep your street clean? Help your neighbours recycle more and put out their rubbish and recycling in the right way. Download free materials from 6 November: www.bathnes.gov.uk/friendsofourstreet

• Like our Facebook page www.facebook.com/recycleforbathnes to receive updates and tips.


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« Reply #9 on: September 21, 2017, 08:11:16 PM »

Takes a bit of parsing, that...
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« Reply #10 on: September 22, 2017, 07:37:52 AM »

Nice to see wheelie bins are still 'controversial' in terms of local media coverage.   I think mine is somewhere around 25 years old, maybe more.  (Winchester District)...

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« Reply #11 on: September 22, 2017, 08:47:24 AM »

Takes a bit of parsing, that...
Um, it looks as if there was a malfunction in the transporter room.
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« Reply #12 on: September 22, 2017, 08:52:25 AM »

Here we go... I hope:
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Controversial roll-out of wheelie bins to more than 60,000 homes in Bath area to begin
More than 17,00 households across Bath and North East Somerset will get a black re-usable gull-proof bag instead

The controversial roll-out of wheelie bins to most Bath homes is set to begin next week.

An estimated 61,500 households across Bath and North East Somerset will get a wheelie bin delivered in the roll-out starting Monday, September 25.

Another 17,500 will be given a black re-usable gull-proof bag.

The new rubbish receptacles are being delivered ahead of changes to bin collections in a couple of months.

But not everyone is happy with what they are getting, with the council declining about two in every five requests to switch to the alternative.

From November 6, the council will be collecting rubbish every other week in wheeled bins or re-usable bags for the majority of residents.

“The changes will help to keep the streets cleaner, increase recycling and make the services more affordable,” according to the local authority.

Recycling – including food waste – will continue to be collected weekly. The chargeable garden waste collections will remain every other week.

The council is warning residents to expect their new rubbish receptacle next week.

“From 25 September to early November the council will deliver wheeled bins or re-usable rubbish bags to around 78,000 households.

“Please continue to put out your rubbish as you normally do until the new collection starts.

“It is important that you do not use your new wheeled bin or re-usable rubbish bag until the new collection starts as we won’t be able to collect it.

Councillor Bob Goodman (Conservative, Combe Down), Cabinet Member for Development and Neighbourhoods, said: “The Council has held over 100 recycling roadshows and talks across Bath and North East Somerset between September 2016 and August 2017, to help our residents to get ready for the changes – which will help encourage people to recycle more, keep streets clean and save money.

“In addition, we’ve listened to those residents who have asked for a change to their bin allocation, and we have made a number of changes, where possible, in response to their individual circumstances.

“In over half the cases, processed so far, where residents have requested a different bin or bag, the council has agreed to this request.”

Rachel Graydon, from Camerton, is glad to be getting a wheelie bin.

She said: “We’re looking forward to getting a wheeled bin because we have lots of cats near us that tear the bin bags open.”

The local authority has provided the following advice for residents.

How will the bins and bags be delivered?

The wheeled bins will be delivered to the front edge of your property with a printed address label on the back and a welcome pack tucked into the lid. It is fine if you wish to decorate your bin, such as adding a bin wrap or painting your house number on, but the bin does remain the property of the Council.

If you have been allocated a re-usable rubbish bag it will be delivered to your door and your welcome pack put through your letter box. If you already have a re-usable rubbish bag please use your new one from 6 November. We will collect old re-useable bags at the end of October so that everyone is using the best containers for the new service.

Your welcome pack will include:

• An 8 page leaflet with full information on how to use the new service and a reminder of all the things you can recycle each week

• A new collection calendar for 2017-18 showing your collection day and Christmas collection information - please check carefully as your collection day is likely to have changed. To help you get used to your new collection day you can sign up for texts for the first 3 months to remind you when your collection is due. Text your postcode to 07520 631700 to receive a reminder

• Two stickers for you to put on your green boxes to help you sort your recycling

You can check whether you have been allocated a bin or bag by entering your address at www.bathnes.gov.uk/recycle or contacting Council Connect.

If you have a query with your allocation please contact the Council Connect waste enquiry line on 01225 39 40 00. Where households have 2 or more children in nappies, 6 or more people in their household or a clear medical need they may be able to apply for a larger bin.

Council Connect will talk through your needs, and then if appropriate pass on your request for a change of container. We will contact you to let you know the outcome of your request. In the meantime, your original allocated container will be delivered to you before the start of the new collection. If we agree to issue an alternative container, we will then exchange them.

Why are the changes being introduced?

• To recycle more:

Bath & North East Somerset Council has a very comprehensive recycling collection service where you can already recycle 17 different types of household waste every week, but some residents could recycle more. About 75% of a household’s waste can be recycled using the current collections, but over half of an average rubbish bag consists of items that could have been recycled. The change will also help to encourage everyone to use their food recycling collection – only about 50% of households currently use this. About a third of the waste in black sacks currently is food.

• To keep our streets cleaner:

Containing rubbish in a bin will prevent animals and birds ripping open plastic bags and making a mess which is unpleasant for everyone and costly to clear up.

• To save money:

Every lorry load of waste costs £1,000 to dispose of whilst every lorry load of recycling earns an income of £100. So reducing the amount put out as rubbish is essential, because the amount of money the Council has to spend is reducing significantly overall.

Help to recycle more

• Please make sure you recycle all you can, including your food waste. You can order extra free recycling containers at www.bathnes.gov.uk/orderacontainer

If you prefer, you can collect recycling containers at one of our three Recycling Centres, rather than wait for one to be delivered.

• Check our website for the latest updates about the changes. Check to see if your query is answered in over 30 FAQs we have on our website www.bathnes.gov.uk/recycle

• Visit one of our roadshows to see the new containers and find out more. Go to www.bathnes.gov.uk/roadshows

• Try using re-usable nappies to help reduce your rubbish. To help you we are selling packs of Bambino Mio re-usable nappies for £150 (£100 less than the retail price) www.bathnes.gov.uk/realnappies

• Keen to keep your street clean? Help your neighbours recycle more and put out their rubbish and recycling in the right way. Download free materials from 6 November: www.bathnes.gov.uk/friendsofourstreet

• Like our Facebook page www.facebook.com/recycleforbathnes to receive updates and tips.
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« Reply #13 on: September 22, 2017, 08:53:59 AM »

I presume the "controversial" bit is that some households will be getting gull-proof plastic bags instead of wheelie bins. Or could it just be that in local news, everything is controversial and/or exciting?
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