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Author Topic: Terror incident on London Underground train at Parsons Green station, 15 September 2017  (Read 5963 times)
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« Reply #15 on: September 17, 2017, 10:16:49 »

They've now arrested arrested another male of 21yo
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« Reply #16 on: September 17, 2017, 20:26:27 »

A further update, from the BBC» (British Broadcasting Corporation - home page):

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Parsons Green: UK (United Kingdom) terror threat lowered to severe after Tube bomb

The UK terror threat level has been lowered to severe after being raised to critical, its highest level, following Friday's attack on a London Tube train.

A second man has been arrested as part of the investigation into the attack.

The 21-year-old was arrested in Hounslow, west London, on Saturday night on suspicion of a terror offence and is in custody in south London.

An 18-year-old man is also being held on suspicion of a terror offence over the Parsons Green explosion.

The "severe" terror threat level means an attack is no longer imminent but is still highly likely.

Police are searching a residential address in Stanwell, Surrey, in connection with the 21-year-old man's arrest.

Home Secretary Amber Rudd said that over the next few days the military would return to their original positions. She said the police had made "good progress" in the investigation but urged "everybody to continue to be vigilant but not alarmed".

Assistant Metropolitan Police Commissioner Mark Rowley said police had gained a "greater understanding" of how the bomb was prepared but said there was "still much more to do" in the investigation.


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William Huskisson MP (Member of Parliament) was the first person to be killed by a train while crossing the tracks, in 1830.  Many more have died in the same way since then.  Don't take a chance: stop, look, listen.

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« Reply #17 on: September 18, 2017, 09:38:37 »

We really iught not quote the Daily Mail without corroboration from rest of media.

...or at all, for preference.
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« Reply #18 on: September 18, 2017, 23:52:54 »

An update, from the BBC» (British Broadcasting Corporation - home page):

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Parsons Green: Tube staff's accounts of bomb 'pandemonium'



The driver of the train targeted in Friday's terror attack at Parsons Green Tube station has revealed the "pandemonium" which followed the explosion, in his official account.

A initial London Underground investigation into the incident, documented in a paper seen by the BBC, has given a snapshot of how staff reacted when an improvised bomb partially exploded in a train, injuring 30 people during the morning rush hour.

The report also revealed initial communications between the driver and the service controller were "hampered", while CCTV (Closed Circuit Tele Vision) images showed "a scene of confusion and distress".

Here is the train driver's account, according to the London Underground report:
When he arrived at Parsons Green, he operated the train doors as normal and carried out his platform duties.
As he was about to shut the doors to depart, he noticed on the in-cab CCTV that a lot of passengers were running out of the rear car.
He immediately opened the cab door to find out what was happening.
Some passengers were shouting "fire" and others were shouting "it's an attack".
The train operator stated that he returned to the cab to raise a mayday alarm.
He asked for traction current to be switched off immediately.
He then returned to the platform and told passengers that were stuck on the platform due to the pandemonium and small size of the staircase to follow him.
He took the customers on to the track away from the trains via the ramp.
He took the customers as far as the sidings and instructed them to stay low and out of sight.
At this time there were about 50-70 people on the track with the train operator and because he was not sure what type of attack was going on, he returned to the station platform to get more information.
On arriving back on the platform, he was met by the station supervisor, who informed the train operator that a bomb had gone off in the last car.
The train operator returned to the sidings to lead the passengers on the track back to the station, and eventually out of the station.

Here is the station supervisor's account:
The supervisor and his staff were at the gateline when there was a sudden stampede of passengers from platform two.
Customers started jumping over the barriers to get out of the station.
The supervisor plunged the gates using the emergency button to keep all gates open.
He instructed his staff to continue to help people out of the station while he went to investigate the reason for the stampede.
After checking the station cameras, he saw that the platform was still very busy with people trying frantically to exit and others running on the tracks, the station supervisor put on his hi-vis and went to the platform.
However, the stairs were so busy and people were being trampled on by those pushing from behind to exit the platform.
The supervisor called his staff and together they helped the fallen and injured out of the station.
They went back and forth and kept calming the crowd, to walk orderly out of the station.
The supervisor was eventually able to get to the platform.
He had found out by enquiring from passengers, while helping them out of the station, that there had been an explosion and fire in the last car of the train on platform two.
The supervisor saw the train operator and informed him of the situation.
The service controller was informed while the train operator went back to the track to retrieve the passengers on the track with him.
The station supervisor continued to evacuate the platform as some passengers kept going to the burning item on the train in order to take pictures.


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William Huskisson MP (Member of Parliament) was the first person to be killed by a train while crossing the tracks, in 1830.  Many more have died in the same way since then.  Don't take a chance: stop, look, listen.

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« Reply #19 on: September 19, 2017, 10:57:42 »

The station supervisor continued to evacuate the platform as some passengers kept going to the burning item on the train in order to take pictures.

And if the remains of the bomb subsequently detonated? It almost needs to happen just once to show those idiots that putting oneself in jeopardy just isn't worth it....but you on't convince these idiots until something really does happen to those that do....
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« Reply #20 on: September 19, 2017, 11:14:49 »

The station supervisor continued to evacuate the platform as some passengers kept going to the burning item on the train in order to take pictures.

And if the remains of the bomb subsequently detonated? It almost needs to happen just once to show those idiots that putting oneself in jeopardy just isn't worth it....but you on't convince these idiots until something really does happen to those that do....
Couldn't believe how stupid people were going up to the carriage door and taking pictures of the burning bucket.
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« Reply #21 on: September 19, 2017, 11:17:27 »

getting something to brag about on their social media counts for a *lot* for some (most, now?) people....
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« Reply #22 on: September 19, 2017, 11:25:43 »

People have acted like that since forever, social media and the ubiquity of cameraphones just give everyone the means to do it. For instance, rubberneckers at motorway pile ups. The ghoul is big in the human.
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« Reply #23 on: September 19, 2017, 11:41:58 »

hmm, not quite the same - they don't (yet) stop on the motorway & go up to accidents. Thankfully
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« Reply #24 on: September 20, 2017, 09:55:52 »

No, but when the Staines air crash happened, people stopped on the M25 to go an look. Ghoulish behaviour is not a new thing.  "Pics or it didn't happen" seems to be born out of that.
Though how far do you now have to go now to prove something due to the evolution of "fake news" and Photoshop?
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« Reply #25 on: September 20, 2017, 10:13:01 »

Eh? Just watch a trusted news channel / read a trusted newspaper/ One doesn't need a photo for your self.
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« Reply #26 on: September 20, 2017, 10:15:47 »

I didn't think the M25 had been started in 1972.
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« Reply #27 on: September 20, 2017, 14:41:21 »

It was the A30, not the M25: see this article, from the BBC» (British Broadcasting Corporation - home page).

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