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Author Topic: Shortage of train crews on Great Western Railway since September 2017 - ongoing discussion  (Read 427066 times)
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« Reply #360 on: February 03, 2018, 20:37:47 »

Sorry getting my b's and d's muddled up there! Grin

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« Reply #361 on: February 03, 2018, 23:27:37 »

Bings bollage bainbridge ?.
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« Reply #362 on: February 04, 2018, 15:13:42 »

Bings bollage bainbridge ?.

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« Reply #363 on: February 04, 2018, 16:38:21 »

Poke in the eye with a sharp stick ?  Different sketch same album Live at Druy Lane 😀
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« Reply #364 on: February 09, 2018, 22:17:06 »

.....not ideal on a Friday night....all cancelled due to crew shortage;

21:29 Reading to London Paddington due 22:28
23:00 London Paddington to Reading due 23:57
23:12 London Paddington to Reading due 00:16
00:14 Reading to London Paddington due 01:11
01:34 London Paddington to Reading due 02:28
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« Reply #365 on: February 11, 2018, 09:24:37 »

Terrible today affecting HSS (High Speed Services) services,  Cheltenham services especially hit.
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« Reply #366 on: February 11, 2018, 09:30:44 »

Suspect the start of half term in many areas has reduced the number of staff volunteering to work.
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« Reply #367 on: February 11, 2018, 09:47:05 »

Terrible today affecting HSS (High Speed Services) services,  Cheltenham services especially hit.

Woeful.

GWR (Great Western Railway) seem no nearer to addressing the Sunday issue. I would not currently recommend planning long distance Sunday travel by rail to anyone.............that's before even taking the weekday staffing situation into account.
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« Reply #368 on: February 11, 2018, 11:07:28 »

It is nothing short of preposterous that any company should try to run a 7 day business with staff only contracted to a 6 or even 5 day week.

The majority of organisations (eg the NHS) have rotas and you have to do your turn.   My daughter is a "junior doctor" (7 years qualified) and she has to do her nights/weekends/public holiday shifts as part of her contract.
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« Reply #369 on: February 11, 2018, 16:12:33 »

Perhaps the future newly nationalised railway will have standardised national 7/7 contracts?

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« Reply #370 on: February 11, 2018, 17:15:20 »

Perhaps the future newly nationalised railway will have standardised national 7/7 contracts?

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..............run that one past the Unions!

I suspect that the current situation is a legacy of old BR (British Rail(ways)) terms and conditions which GWR (Great Western Railway) et al have not had the cojones to challenge?
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« Reply #371 on: February 11, 2018, 17:45:31 »

It is nothing short of preposterous that any company should try to run a 7 day business with staff only contracted to a 6 or even 5 day week.

The majority of organisations (eg the NHS) have rotas and you have to do your turn.   My daughter is a "junior doctor" (7 years qualified) and she has to do her nights/weekends/public holiday shifts as part of her contract.

Agree entirely, I feel that enforcing a significant change on existing staff would be unreasonable, and possible contrary to employment law.
I have however previously suggested that all new staff should be required to work weekends, there is nothing unreasonable about this if the requirement is made clear at the recruitment stage.
There would still be a need for some voluntary overtime working by existing staff for some years, but at least it would be a steadily reducing problem rather than ongoing and perhaps worsening.
I would also suggest that if existing employees apply for a new role, that the new role should require weekend working. Anyone who considers this to be unreasonable need not apply.

A more radical proposal might be to allow existing train crew who are about to retire, to continue part time work at weekends only, for say a year.
Todays increasingly busy railway is not the place for very elderly workers, but I also doubt that a driver or train manger suddenly become unfit/unsafe on a certain birthday.
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« Reply #372 on: February 11, 2018, 18:40:44 »

I thought we had seen the back of this at the start of the year, been a poor excuse of a service on HSS (High Speed Services) lines to South Wales and Cheltenham.

As for services to/from Carmarthen why don’t GWR (Great Western Railway) give up?
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« Reply #373 on: February 11, 2018, 18:44:19 »

I fear for summer weekends if they can’t cover at the moment despite plenty of bribes being handed out.

Meetings between Union and company continue with regard to bringing Sunday’s in the working week for drivers.
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« Reply #374 on: February 11, 2018, 18:53:45 »

I fear for summer weekends if they can’t cover at the moment despite plenty of bribes being handed out.
Last summer wasn’t great if I remember rightly.
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