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Author Topic: Shortage of train crews on Great Western Railway since September 2017 - ongoing discussion  (Read 69619 times)
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« Reply #375 on: February 11, 2018, 06:58:13 pm »

As for services to/from Carmarthen why donít GWR give up?

Perhaps they are doing - the Red / Blue franchises map shows neither franchise going beyond Swansea, and the consultation asks about services logically taken away or added in.
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« Reply #376 on: February 11, 2018, 07:18:52 pm »

I fear for summer weekends if they canít cover at the moment despite plenty of bribes being handed out.

Meetings between Union and company continue with regard to bringing Sundayís in the working week for drivers.

What progress has been achieved through these meetings? Are they anywhere near an agreement to resolve this ridiculous situation?

If the "safety" issues around DOO with Southern can be evaporated by a huge pay rise I'm sure a similar approach would ultimately do the trick here.
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« Reply #377 on: February 11, 2018, 11:44:20 pm »

Sufficient progress has obviously been made for the meetings to continue, though I donít know much more than that.

Comparisons with Southern are misleading as they were in dispute and so far there seems precious little appetite from the Government or other stakeholders to get involved and put pressure on GWR to resolve the issue.
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« Reply #378 on: February 12, 2018, 06:19:02 pm »

All fast and semi fast services to Maidenhead cancelled due to staff shortages.

Utterly useless.
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« Reply #379 on: February 14, 2018, 07:33:58 am »

Serious problems and overcrowding at Maidenhead this morning due to several peak cancellations caused by insufficient staff.
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« Reply #380 on: February 14, 2018, 08:38:51 am »

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This service has been cancelled. This is due to more staff asking for half term week off than usual and management accepting all these requests as usual.
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« Reply #381 on: February 14, 2018, 09:09:06 am »

Does GWR's leave period run from April to March like many office based jobs? If so, does that mean there will be another spike in leave related absence in the run up to Easter weekend, which is right at the beginning of April?
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« Reply #382 on: February 14, 2018, 09:26:32 am »

Does GWR's leave period run from April to March like many office based jobs? If so, does that mean there will be another spike in leave related absence in the run up to Easter weekend, which is right at the beginning of April?

Almost inevitably, & throughout August and any other half terms/Bank Holidays............despite these all being in calendars for months and able to be planned for by management.............well most businesses seem to manage it OK without their service melting down.
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« Reply #383 on: February 14, 2018, 09:32:32 am »

I wish when I had to do rotas for a 24/7 service I could just cancel services and just put a note up saying 'sorry'.
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« Reply #384 on: February 14, 2018, 09:35:07 am »

I wish when I had to do rotas for a 24/7 service I could just cancel services and just put a note up saying 'sorry'.

Yep, me too! Life would have been so much easier!!!
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« Reply #385 on: February 14, 2018, 12:01:12 pm »

Does GWR's leave period run from April to March like many office based jobs? If so, does that mean there will be another spike in leave related absence in the run up to Easter weekend, which is right at the beginning of April?

As far as I know all the driver and guard depots have leave allocations that run out at the end of the year, not at the end of March. 

A very small number of days can be carried over at the depot managers discretion.  That sometimes happens if a driver has tried to take holiday in December, but has had the request declined (as little as 48 hours notice as to whether you have got a day off or not is given) and they have had no opportunity to apply for another day.
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« Reply #386 on: February 14, 2018, 01:15:25 pm »

Does GWR's leave period run from April to March like many office based jobs? If so, does that mean there will be another spike in leave related absence in the run up to Easter weekend, which is right at the beginning of April?

As far as I know all the driver and guard depots have leave allocations that run out at the end of the year, not at the end of March. 

A very small number of days can be carried over at the depot managers discretion.  That sometimes happens if a driver has tried to take holiday in December, but has had the request declined (as little as 48 hours notice as to whether you have got a day off or not is given) and they have had no opportunity to apply for another day.

Just out of interest, how many days annual leave do drivers/guards get with GWR (roughly)?
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« Reply #387 on: February 14, 2018, 01:23:59 pm »

It varies slightly from depot to depot and grade to grade, but around 30 is probably the average.  Higher than most people, but if you are rostered to work on Bank Holidays and want to take the day off it comes out of that total (no days in lieu), and if Christmas Day and Boxing Day fall on days you are due to work then they come off the total as well.  Usually just over 50% of those days are allocated to block weeks, with the rest ad-hoc.
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« Reply #388 on: February 14, 2018, 07:55:02 pm »

It varies slightly from depot to depot and grade to grade, but around 30 is probably the average.  Higher than most people, but if you are rostered to work on Bank Holidays and want to take the day off it comes out of that total (no days in lieu), and if Christmas Day and Boxing Day fall on days you are due to work then they come off the total as well.  Usually just over 50% of those days are allocated to block weeks, with the rest ad-hoc.
So that 2 days more than the statutory minimum if it includes bank holidays isn't it?
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« Reply #389 on: February 14, 2018, 09:19:45 pm »

It varies slightly from depot to depot and grade to grade, but around 30 is probably the average.  Higher than most people, but if you are rostered to work on Bank Holidays and want to take the day off it comes out of that total (no days in lieu), and if Christmas Day and Boxing Day fall on days you are due to work then they come off the total as well.  Usually just over 50% of those days are allocated to block weeks, with the rest ad-hoc.

And with ad-hoc leave only a certain number of staff will be guaranteed it.  The amount guaranteed depends on the size of the depot.  For example, if 8 drivers put in for leave 3 could be guaranteed the day off the remainder will only be granted if all the jobs from the depot are covered.
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