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Author Topic: Shortage of train crews on Great Western Railway since September 2017 - ongoing discussion  (Read 65940 times)
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« Reply #900 on: August 17, 2018, 04:03:10 pm »

On a Friday in August, probably one of the worst to cancel;

17:33 London Paddington to Paignton due 21:19
17:33 London Paddington to Paignton due 21:19 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.

Given this is a Peak service, it is not so crucial for long distance travellers, so I would suggest that, if any are to be cancelled, then this is the prime candidate.

Really? Fancy trying to cram them all onto the 1803 which is the suggested alternative?
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« Reply #901 on: August 17, 2018, 04:07:14 pm »

On a Friday in August, probably one of the worst to cancel;

17:33 London Paddington to Paignton due 21:19
17:33 London Paddington to Paignton due 21:19 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.

Given this is a Peak service, it is not so crucial for long distance travellers, so I would suggest that, if any are to be cancelled, then this is the prime candidate.

Really? Fancy trying to cram them all onto the 1803 which is the suggested alternative?

What I was trying to say, is that this service is not popular with long-distance travellers, so there won't be that many of them. Having travelled on it before on a Summer Friday, it is likely to be more than half empty after Newbury and there are plenty of other services for Reading* and Newbury.

* It being Friday, the service is Pick-Up Only at Reading, so, naturally, there will not be anybody boarding at Paddington for Reading  Wink
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« Reply #902 on: August 17, 2018, 04:35:00 pm »

It has now been partially re-instated and will run as one coach from Exeter St Davids to Paignton.   The 18:03 connects into it - which of course means the 18:03 will be very busy.  How the one car train from Exeter fares is open to debate - I have caught the service from Paddington through to Paignton before and it is very much quieter after Exeter.
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« Reply #903 on: August 18, 2018, 07:40:43 am »

…..it's a summer Saturday and people want to go to the coast (amongst other places), so these are cancelled...………

06:22 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 09:00
06:54 Westbury to Weymouth due 08:26
07:45 London Paddington to Swansea due 10:43
08:15 London Paddington to Cheltenham Spa due 10:22
08:35 London Paddington to Paignton due 12:10
09:45 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 12:26
10:35 London Paddington to Paignton due 14:12
11:00 Cheltenham Spa to London Paddington due 13:07
13:08 Paignton to London Paddington due 17:00
14:50 Paignton to London Paddington due 18:13
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« Reply #904 on: August 18, 2018, 03:35:59 pm »

…..it's a summer Saturday and people want to go to the coast (amongst other places), so these are cancelled...………

06:22 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 09:00
06:54 Westbury to Weymouth due 08:26
07:45 London Paddington to Swansea due 10:43
08:15 London Paddington to Cheltenham Spa due 10:22
08:35 London Paddington to Paignton due 12:10
09:45 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 12:26
10:35 London Paddington to Paignton due 14:12
11:00 Cheltenham Spa to London Paddington due 13:07
13:08 Paignton to London Paddington due 17:00
14:50 Paignton to London Paddington due 18:13
The in between expresses stopped at the stations due to be served by the Paigntons so would have probably been quite cozy on board especially if the air con in any of the carriages wasn’t working.
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« Reply #905 on: August 18, 2018, 04:59:13 pm »

…..it's a summer Saturday and people want to go to the coast (amongst other places), so these are cancelled...………

06:22 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 09:00
06:54 Westbury to Weymouth due 08:26
07:45 London Paddington to Swansea due 10:43
08:15 London Paddington to Cheltenham Spa due 10:22
08:35 London Paddington to Paignton due 12:10
09:45 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 12:26
10:35 London Paddington to Paignton due 14:12
11:00 Cheltenham Spa to London Paddington due 13:07
13:08 Paignton to London Paddington due 17:00
14:50 Paignton to London Paddington due 18:13
The in between expresses stopped at the stations due to be served by the Paigntons so would have probably been quite cozy on board especially if the air con in any of the carriages wasn’t working.

A pal of mine was heading back to Plymouth for the weekend this morning and said it was predictably appalling as you suggest.

Mass cancellations on a Saturday. God knows what it'll be like tomorrow when the BBQs come out.
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« Reply #906 on: August 19, 2018, 08:09:58 am »

Let the Sunday games begin...........

cancelled.....
08:30 London Paddington to Cheltenham Spa due 10:43
08:36 London Paddington to Hereford due 11:51
11:18 Cheltenham Spa to London Paddington due 13:29
13:32 Hereford to London Paddington due 17:05
15:20 Weston-Super-Mare to London Paddington due 17:55
16:27 London Paddington to Cheltenham Spa due 18:40
17:00 London Paddington to Bristol Temple Meads due 18:56
18:56 Taunton to London Paddington due 21:49
19:30 Bristol Temple Meads to London Paddington due 21:16
19:32 Cheltenham Spa to London Paddington due 21:37

08:23 Weston-Super-Mare to London Paddington due 10:50   will be started from Bristol Temple Meads
08:33 London Paddington to Swansea due 11:49                   will be terminated at Cardiff Central
11:40 Penzance to London Paddington due 17:27                  will be started from Plymouth
12:00 London Paddington to Weston-super-Mare due 14:37   will be terminated at Bristol Temple Meads
12:36 London Paddington to Hereford due 15:55                   will be started from Reading
13:20 Weston-super-Mare to London Paddington due 15:50   will be terminated at Bristol Temple Meads
15:00 London Paddington to Taunton due 18:01                    will be terminated at Bristol Temple Meads
15:59 Newquay to London Paddington due 21:27                  will be terminated at Plymouth
16:13 Penzance to London Paddington due 21:35                  will be terminated at Exeter St Davids
16:26 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 19:05 will be terminated at Reading
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« Reply #907 on: August 19, 2018, 05:50:21 pm »

Interesting one here, 1559 Newquay-Paddington terminates at Plymouth. Okay not a problem, the 1613 from Penzance to Paddington is not far behind. Oh dear, that one only goes as far as Exeter!
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« Reply #908 on: August 19, 2018, 07:41:34 pm »

Looks like a solution was found  Smiley Pick up a Bristol crew member.

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16:13 Penzance to London Paddington due 21:35 will be diverted between Taunton and Reading.
It will be delayed due to the diversion and is expected to be 26 minutes late.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
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« Reply #909 on: August 19, 2018, 07:59:14 pm »

Looks like a solution was found  Smiley Pick up a Bristol crew member.

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16:13 Penzance to London Paddington due 21:35 will be diverted between Taunton and Reading.
It will be delayed due to the diversion and is expected to be 26 minutes late.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.

Hmmm ... and use it to pick up passengers for the 19:30 Bristol to Paddington which has also been cancelled?
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« Reply #910 on: August 19, 2018, 09:18:14 pm »

.....my sympathy is with those on board, the overcrowding must be absolutely hideous.........
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« Reply #911 on: August 19, 2018, 09:28:54 pm »

The 2000 Bristol TM went up infront of it so it would be the Bristol service that may be like that....
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« Reply #912 on: August 20, 2018, 08:13:10 am »

Looks like GWR'S inability to manage their Annual Leave schedule is causing problems again today, a number of long distance peak services cancelled due to staff shortages. Some very unhappy customers out there.....who are being advised to complain with the rider that due to a backlog (still going on!) they'll probably be waiting 3 or 4 weeks for a reply.....
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« Reply #913 on: August 20, 2018, 01:28:46 pm »

Looks like GWR'S inability to manage their Annual Leave schedule is causing problems again today

It has nothing to do with an ability to manage annual leave. It's all down to the perfectly normal and valid situation whereby the entire railway workforce cannot be compelled to come to work on a Sunday. It's the Lord's day! Woe betide anyone who dares attempting to force staff to give up going to church. Strike, strike, strike! So if staff cannot be bribed into coming in with massive overtime payments then everything falls apart. Ain't railways brilliant.
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« Reply #914 on: August 20, 2018, 01:40:00 pm »

Looks like GWR'S inability to manage their Annual Leave schedule is causing problems again today

It has nothing to do with an ability to manage annual leave. It's all down to the perfectly normal and valid situation whereby the entire railway workforce cannot be compelled to come to work on a Sunday. It's the Lord's day! Woe betide anyone who dares attempting to force staff to give up going to church. Strike, strike, strike! So if staff cannot be bribed into coming in with massive overtime payments then everything falls apart. Ain't railways brilliant.

Last time I checked it wasn’t Sunday...  Huh
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