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Author Topic: Shortage of train crews on Great Western Railway since September 2017 - ongoing discussion  (Read 126843 times)
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« Reply #990 on: June 02, 2019, 10:39:24 am »

There are also some curtailed journeys, especially on Cardiff Portsmouth Hbr/Brighton route.
For completeness they are:
15:00 Penzance-London Paddington terminates at Reading
16:35 Cardiff-Brighton terminates at Bristol TM
18:08 Cardiff-Portsmouth terminates at Westbury
19:08 Portsmouth-Cardiff terminates at Bristol TM
20:28 Exmouth-Paignton starts at Exeter St Davids


We’ve seen far worse. Of course there is now delay repay available for those affected.

PS Not looking a great day for a BBQ  Wink
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« Reply #991 on: June 02, 2019, 12:47:59 pm »

Looks like my comments up thread a little will be about right.  Significantly better than the last two years, but still not good enough.
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« Reply #992 on: June 02, 2019, 12:52:36 pm »

Looks like my comments up thread a little will be about right.  Significantly better than the last two years, but still not good enough.

Agree, a poor performance, but this should gradually get better and not worse as more new staff displace resignations and retirements.
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« Reply #993 on: June 05, 2019, 10:55:23 am »


The shortage has reared it's head today in mid-week in the Bristol area affecting Regional West services
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« Reply #994 on: June 05, 2019, 05:39:41 pm »

Looks like my comments up thread a little will be about right.  Significantly better than the last two years, but still not good enough.

Agree, a poor performance, but this should gradually get better and not worse as more new staff displace resignations and retirements.

The amount of resignations from well paid rail jobs is negligible, certainly nowhere near enough to affect service.
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« Reply #995 on: June 06, 2019, 08:44:51 pm »


The amount of resignations from well paid rail jobs is negligible, certainly nowhere near enough to affect service.

Is there much movement between TOCs by drivers?
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« Reply #996 on: June 06, 2019, 09:31:46 pm »


The amount of resignations from well paid rail jobs is negligible, certainly nowhere near enough to affect service.

Is there much movement between TOCs by drivers?

I have heard a senior person at a TOC suggesting that it's very frustrating to train drivers just to have them moved to  (be poached by) another TOC.  Qualitative comment though - I have no quantities / percentage data.
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« Reply #997 on: June 06, 2019, 10:57:09 pm »

We used to lose quite a few to Chiltern amongst others.  Following the wages shooting up on GWR, Chiltern drivers are starting to come the other way.  Wink
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« Reply #998 on: June 12, 2019, 05:50:50 am »

Second day in a row, a few of the first Truro-Falmouth services cancelled, no driver
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« Reply #999 on: June 12, 2019, 07:40:25 am »

Second day in a row, a few of the first Truro-Falmouth services cancelled, no driver

But it's not B-B-Q weather  Huh
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« Reply #1000 on: June 12, 2019, 08:06:24 am »

 I suspect the railway industry will always be reliant on staff working extra hours.
 
 The salary of driver's now probably means they less inclined to work overtime, whereas rail
 companies are reluctant for staff to 'sit spare'.
 
 
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« Reply #1001 on: June 12, 2019, 10:26:28 am »

I suspect the railway industry will always be reliant on staff working extra hours.
 
 The salary of driver's now probably means they less inclined to work overtime, whereas rail
 companies are reluctant for staff to 'sit spare'.
 
 
Same with bus drivers in Kernowland.
Each depot could do with 3 spare staff each day (early morning/mid/late) and a large and small bus spare, but that would cost too much money so would never happen, unfortunately.
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« Reply #1002 on: June 12, 2019, 02:22:05 pm »

Second day in a row, a few of the first Truro-Falmouth services cancelled, no driver

But it's not B-B-Q weather  Huh

Now, now, stop nicking TaplowGreen’s only best joke.  Wink
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« Reply #1003 on: June 12, 2019, 08:58:39 pm »

Now, now, stop nicking TaplowGreen’s only best joke.  Wink

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« Reply #1004 on: June 12, 2019, 09:07:41 pm »


The amount of resignations from well paid rail jobs is negligible, certainly nowhere near enough to affect service.

Is there much movement between TOCs by drivers?

I have heard a senior person at a TOC suggesting that it's very frustrating to train drivers just to have them moved to  (be poached by) another TOC.  Qualitative comment though - I have no quantities / percentage data.

I have a train driving friend whose on his fourth TOC/FOC since 2005. Of course that's only anecdotal data. I know not his reasons for changing employers.
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