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Author Topic: Shortage of train crews on Great Western Railway since September 2017 - ongoing discussion  (Read 146925 times)
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« Reply #1245 on: November 19, 2019, 12:25:11 pm »

Turkey season replaces barbecue season?
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #1246 on: November 19, 2019, 12:50:56 pm »

And 1649 Padd – Didcot semi-fast is terminating at Reading, so no 1725 Reading – Didcot, which is a busy commuter train. 

Later - this train got reinstated some time this afternoon, and ran through to Didcot OK
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« Reply #1247 on: November 30, 2019, 07:40:59 pm »

I see that GWR have cancelled the 0100 Paddington-Reading service tonight (amongst others) due to staff shortage.....should make for some lively discussion with those staff that are working when people arrive back to Paddington for the last train home......really poor as we move into the Christmas party season.
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« Reply #1248 on: November 30, 2019, 07:52:13 pm »

Probably would have been more today if there hadn't been a TfL train operating 4 Paddington-Reading turns.
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« Reply #1249 on: November 30, 2019, 09:42:41 pm »

Apparently GWR are trying to arrange buses  to run in lieu of the 0100. I can't see that journey being a very pleasant experience.

(And yes I appreciate that it's better than nothing)

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« Reply #1250 on: November 30, 2019, 11:18:31 pm »

I see that GWR have cancelled the 0100 Paddington-Reading service tonight (amongst others) due to staff shortage.....should make for some lively discussion with those staff that are working when people arrive back to Paddington for the last train home......really poor as we move into the Christmas party season.

GWR are actually doing this in the best interests of passengers.
"Christmas party season" is only the polite term for "binge drinking season" GWR, as part of HMGs anti binge drinking policy, are making getting home after drinking a little harder, in the hope that some people will vow "never again", thereby improving public health.
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« Reply #1251 on: December 01, 2019, 04:35:06 am »

The 0100 London Paddington - Reading service ran as scheduled with additional stops.

The 0030 London Paddington - Reading was cancelled.  The set and driver was used to reinstate the 0100 departure
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« Reply #1252 on: December 01, 2019, 07:14:21 am »

I did wonder if they’d do that as it was the obvious thing to do as long as the driver was happy doing it.
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« Reply #1253 on: December 01, 2019, 08:52:37 am »

It wasn't much comfort to those who had rushed back to Paddington for the 0030, believing it to be the last service of the day, only to find it cancelled, and judging by reports the 0100 was the predictably unpleasant experience.

The "obvious thing" is for GWR to have enough staff available to run their services, especially those late night ones where few alternative options are available.

Notwithstanding that some local services will still be run by GWR, we can only hope that TfL will prove more competent.

"Crew Shortages" will be one of Hopwood's legacies.
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« Reply #1254 on: December 01, 2019, 10:45:23 am »

Enhanced pay is being offered to staff working on Sunday 15th December to try and persuade as many to work as possible.  Clearly they are very worried that there won’t be enough for the first day of the new timetable, with several works Christmas do’s taking place the previous day.

Launching it in the run up to Christmas is far from ideal as I have previously said, but I guess GWR’s hands were tied as the changes affect so many services and other operators they couldn’t have realistically waited until January.
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« Reply #1255 on: December 01, 2019, 11:05:28 am »

Enhanced pay is being offered to staff working on Sunday 15th December to try and persuade as many to work as possible.  Clearly they are very worried that there won’t be enough for the first day of the new timetable, with several works Christmas do’s taking place the previous day.

Launching it in the run up to Christmas is far from ideal as I have previously said, but I guess GWR’s hands were tied as the changes affect so many services and other operators they couldn’t have realistically waited until January.
I’m very pleased to hear that II as I shall be travelling out of London on one of the new extra services operating on the WoE line on the 15th and won’t be amused if it gets cancelled because there aren’t enough train crew.

Who’s going to say no to a bit of extra cash just before Christmas?

Agree far from ideal launching a new timetable just days before Christmas.
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« Reply #1256 on: December 01, 2019, 03:58:48 pm »

Enhanced pay is being offered to staff working on Sunday 15th December to try and persuade as many to work as possible.  Clearly they are very worried that there won’t be enough for the first day of the new timetable, with several works Christmas do’s taking place the previous day.

Launching it in the run up to Christmas is far from ideal as I have previously said, but I guess GWR’s hands were tied as the changes affect so many services and other operators they couldn’t have realistically waited until January.

Indeed - mustn't jeopardise the Christmas p**s up for a little thing like providing a service for customers or the new timetable!  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #1257 on: December 01, 2019, 04:04:27 pm »

I’m very pleased to hear that II as I shall be travelling out of London on one of the new extra services operating on the WoE line on the 15th and won’t be amused if it gets cancelled because there aren’t enough train crew.

Who’s going to say no to a bit of extra cash just before Christmas?

Agree far from ideal launching a new timetable just days before Christmas.

I expect quite a lot will turn down the extra money for that Sunday, mainly because a large chunk of the extra payment disappears in tax and, potentially, this could be the last time everyone can make themselves unavailable to work a Sunday and thus the last time the depots can have big get together.  

Unfortunately, I would expect a lot will be cancelled even with an enhancement of the enhanced pay that I predict will probably come before the 15th.  The 22nd will be the same.  Staff have up until 5 days before the 15th (I think) to make themselves before the roster is finalised.  If they are going be that short you’d hope the train companies would publish a revised timetable.
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« Reply #1258 on: December 02, 2019, 09:32:45 am »

I doubt it’ll attract the numbers needed, but it will no doubt tempt some who are not booked to work that Sunday into doing an extra shift.  Perhaps enough to turn it from a farce to just a few cancellations?  We’ll find out in a couple of weeks...

BTW It covers all operational staff, not just train crew.
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« Reply #1259 on: December 02, 2019, 09:40:21 am »

I doubt it’ll attract the numbers needed, but it will no doubt tempt some who are not booked to work that Sunday into doing an extra shift.  Perhaps enough to turn it from a farce to just a few cancellations?  We’ll find out in a couple of weeks...

BTW It covers all operational staff, not just train crew.
What a way to run a railway.  Roll Eyes
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