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« Reply #1740 on: September 19, 2021, 06:30:17 pm »

More events going on on Saturday than Sunday, so more would rather work onba Sunday

I don't understand the logic here could you explain?
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« Reply #1741 on: September 19, 2021, 09:11:06 pm »

More events going on on Saturday than Sunday, so more would rather work onba Sunday

Ah I see..........should make it easier to get Sunday within the working week then, clearly it's not so sacred after all?

Recent trainee recruitment would suggest Sunday within the working week will be happening at some point still.
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« Reply #1742 on: September 19, 2021, 10:09:28 pm »

More events going on on Saturday than Sunday, so more would rather work onba Sunday

I don't understand the logic here could you explain?

If the earnings are the same for extra Saturday & Sunday shifts as stated above, then any football fans can watch their game on a Saturday while earning an extra tiurn on a Sunday without missing out on a higher additional payment. For example. There are many others. More happens on a Saturday than Sunday.
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« Reply #1743 on: September 20, 2021, 09:12:51 pm »

Are the management not keeping their staff happy? Happy staff will almost always help between them to cover shifts but when morale is low the answer is normally "no".
From II's post yesterday (see above) and what's been demonstrated every weekend (and weekdays now too) the answer is clearly no.

I was once asked by a senior manager how much job satisfaction I got. I asked if he meant before or after tax and national insurance. Money can't buy you happiness, but you can afford a better class of misery.
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« Reply #1744 on: September 25, 2021, 08:39:25 am »

After the last few Saturdays where there have been dozens of cancellations due to crew shortage, it seems a better situation today with "only" around 10 - hopefully it won't deteriorate later today............or tomorrow.
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« Reply #1745 on: September 25, 2021, 09:52:02 am »

After the last few Saturdays where there have been dozens of cancellations due to crew shortage, it seems a better situation today with "only" around 10 - hopefully it won't deteriorate later today............or tomorrow.

Unless I'm missing something Journey Check is currently showing 25 with Cornwall badly hit again
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« Reply #1746 on: September 25, 2021, 09:56:53 am »

After the last few Saturdays where there have been dozens of cancellations due to crew shortage, it seems a better situation today with "only" around 10 - hopefully it won't deteriorate later today............or tomorrow.

Unless I'm missing something Journey Check is currently showing 25 with Cornwall badly hit again

Yep, I spoke too soon. Should know better really...... Roll Eyes
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« Reply #1747 on: September 26, 2021, 04:57:13 pm »

Cancellations to services between Swindon and Cheltenham Spa

Due to a shortage of train crew between Swindon and Cheltenham Spa:
Train services running through these stations may be cancelled. Disruption is expected until 21:45 26/09.
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« Reply #1748 on: September 28, 2021, 08:36:21 am »

Today's Telegraph:  (Should this be in the "Named Trains" thread ??)

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« Reply #1749 on: September 28, 2021, 08:55:04 am »

Should this be in the "Named Trains" thread ??

Well it shouldn’t be in the ‘Shortage of Train Crew’ thread.
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« Reply #1750 on: September 28, 2021, 10:53:39 am »

Should this be in the "Named Trains" thread ??

Well it shouldn’t be in the ‘Shortage of Train Crew’ thread.

It should if it was meant to be a 10 car train..............
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« Reply #1751 on: September 28, 2021, 10:56:55 am »

Surely should be in Broadgage’s favourite - the cracks thread & lack of 80x stock
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« Reply #1752 on: September 28, 2021, 03:23:33 pm »

Should this be in the "Named Trains" thread ??

Well it shouldn’t be in the ‘Shortage of Train Crew’ thread.

It should if it was meant to be a 10 car train..............

10-car trains don’t run on the North Cotswold Line.  And even if they did, not necessarily…
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« Reply #1753 on: September 28, 2021, 04:30:11 pm »

The writer of the letter states that trains that should have been 9 car were in fact 5 car, presuming that they are correct in this, then yes this probably belongs in the cracked trains thread.

IET (Intercity Express Train) advocates might however suggest that lack of depot staff is the problem, rather than the trains.


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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU (Diesel Multiple Unit) is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #1754 on: September 28, 2021, 07:17:35 pm »

I think a shortage of trains, or the author being mistaken, or the author saying ‘should’ meaning it was booked for a 5-car but that was inadequate, are the three most likely reasons.

It’s doubtful we’ll find out, but very unlikely to be a train crew shortage.
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