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Author Topic: Shortage of train crews on Great Western Railway since September 2017 - ongoing discussion  (Read 427427 times)
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« Reply #1995 on: May 19, 2023, 13:31:09 »

Some better news on the Cornwall front. The 1704 will now run as scheduled throughout.
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« Reply #1996 on: May 19, 2023, 20:43:22 »

But change trains at Plymouth to a castle set !
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« Reply #1997 on: May 27, 2023, 09:22:59 »

On journeycheck
06:19 Bristol Temple Meads to Newquay due 10:36
06:19 Bristol Temple Meads to Newquay due 10:36 will be terminated at Plymouth.
It will no longer call at Liskeard, Bodmin Parkway, Par and Newquay.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.

The return journey also starts from Plymouth, but.
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:P04575/2023-05-27/detailed is showing a 9 car IET (Intercity Express Train).
Surely that wouldn't have run to Newquay?
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« Reply #1998 on: May 27, 2023, 10:09:48 »

On journeycheck
06:19 Bristol Temple Meads to Newquay due 10:36
06:19 Bristol Temple Meads to Newquay due 10:36 will be terminated at Plymouth.
It will no longer call at Liskeard, Bodmin Parkway, Par and Newquay.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.

The return journey also starts from Plymouth, but.
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:P04575/2023-05-27/detailed is showing a 9 car IET (Intercity Express Train).
Surely that wouldn't have run to Newquay?

I think 9 cars DO run to Newquay but recall an issue in having two of them pass each other at Goonbarrow
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« Reply #1999 on: May 27, 2023, 11:31:40 »

Sunny, Bank Holiday weekend, huge opportunity for leisure travel to the seaside so........

Cancellations to services between Par and Newquay

Due to a shortage of train crew between Par and Newquay fewer trains are able to run on all lines.
Train services running to and from these stations have been cancelled. Disruption is expected until 12:00 27/05.

......Once again, the message is you cannot rely on the railway.
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« Reply #2000 on: May 27, 2023, 13:11:38 »

Looks like just the one round trip cancelled?  Though the one that you’d probably choose if you wanted to get to Newquay for the day.
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« Reply #2001 on: May 27, 2023, 14:32:38 »

11:14 Newquay to London Paddington due 15:57

11:14 Newquay to London Paddington due 15:57 will be started from Plymouth.
It will no longer call at Newquay, Par, Bodmin Parkway and Liskeard.

This is due to a shortage of train crew.
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« Reply #2002 on: May 28, 2023, 06:33:31 »

B-B-Q day for the bruvvers
Cancellations to services between Liskeard and Looe
Due to a shortage of train crew between Liskeard and Looe fewer trains are able to run on the line.
Train services running to and from these stations will be cancelled. Disruption is expected until 12:00 28/05.
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08:45 Plymouth to Penzance due 10:47
09:14 Plymouth to Penzance due 11:02
09:18 Penzance to London Paddington due 14:24
11:49 Penzance to Cardiff Central due 17:00

Admittedly only 2 trains but loss of an IET (Intercity Express Train) to London and back will result in overloading, and journeycheck reported much overcrowding yesterday.
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« Reply #2003 on: May 28, 2023, 07:27:48 »

To be fair, GWR (Great Western Railway) pretty much ran their full Summer Saturday timetable to the Southwest yesterday with all trains operating operating with 9/10 coach IETs (Intercity Express Train).

I don’t think there’s much more than they can do when it comes to overcrowding especially when you consider that the capacity of 9/10 coach IETs is higher than the HSTs (High Speed Train) they replaced.

You also had trains operating every half an hour during the ‘morning peak.

Demand for travel is very high at the moment.
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« Reply #2004 on: May 28, 2023, 07:41:48 »

Demand is high; overcrowding is frequent.
Yet the DfT» (Department for Transport - about) still blocking expenditure for improvements!
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« Reply #2005 on: May 28, 2023, 07:52:02 »

Demand is high; overcrowding is frequent.
Yet the DfT» (Department for Transport - about) still blocking expenditure for improvements!

Worse than that, they are providing GWR (Great Western Railway) with much less stock than was originally planned.
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« Reply #2006 on: May 28, 2023, 07:55:34 »

Demand is high; overcrowding is frequent.
Yet the DfT» (Department for Transport - about) still blocking expenditure for improvements!

Worse than that, they are providing GWR (Great Western Railway) with much less stock than was originally planned.

Sounds like it's more of a crew issue today (and yesterday) if Journeycheck is to be believed (a dangerous assumption I know!)

You can have all the stock in the world but if there's no-one to drive it................and obviously that leads to overcrowding on other/later services.
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« Reply #2007 on: May 28, 2023, 13:21:44 »

Situation seems to be deteriorating as the day goes on and there appears to be toilet shortages as well as crew shortages.
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« Reply #2008 on: May 29, 2023, 07:05:39 »

I was on a service that arrived in Pz last Tuesday, and the forward toilet had no paper.

Is there an automated reporting system on the IET (Intercity Express Train)'s for this, as that train went back to Paddington.
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« Reply #2009 on: May 29, 2023, 09:42:17 »

There’s no automated procedure, though at larger stations the turnaround cleaning team carry stock and can replenish it.  Not sure if that’s the case at Penzance but I would have thought it would be. Reporting it to the TM(resolve) is a good idea if you get chance.
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