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« Reply #150 on: December 13, 2017, 14:09:11 »

Which is what causes the warning that 2 tickets are required to travel that way.
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« Reply #151 on: December 13, 2017, 14:27:56 »

There is a specific negative easement in place:

700309 Circuitous Route Customers travelling via Reading to Thatcham may not travel via Newbury. This easement applies in both directions.

This suggests, maybe that it was at one time permitted, or at least not otherwise barred.
I love the concept of the "negative easement". Could this be a difficult-ment?
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« Reply #152 on: December 13, 2017, 16:04:27 »

Easement link at http://data.atoc.org/routeing-guide (section e) - updated 12.12.2017 so current verging on "breaking news". Advice is "Scroll through the list of easements to establish whether any easements apply to your journey." It explains:

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Routeing Guide Easements
An easement which extends permission is a positive easement. An easement which narrows permission is a negative easement. Map, double-back and fare route easements are always positive. Circuitous route easements are always negative. Other kinds of easements can be positive or negative. A journey which follows a route otherwise permitted by the Routeing Guide may be forbidden by a negative easement.

There are just under 130 easements that refer to doubling back (please excuse the scruffiness of my program to extract these from a 31 page .pdf!

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Journeys from Hykeham to and via Newark Northgate or Newark Castle may double back from Lincoln. This easement applies in both directions.

Journeys from Surbiton and stations west of Surbiton to Kingston upon Thames and stations north of Kingston Upon Thames, may double back between Wimbledon, Raynes Park and New Malden. This easement applies in both directions.

Journeys via Todmorden, Hebden Bridge and Burnley Manchester Road may double back from Halifax. This easement applies in both directions.

Customers may double back between Carnforth and Lancaster when changing between the Skipton to Lancaster and the Barrow in Furness to Lancaster lines

Journeys from Ulverston and stations west of Ulverston to Roose and Dalton may double back from Barrow when the Ulverston train does not stop at those stations. This easement applies in both directions.

Passengers may double back between Hebden Bridge and Halifax when changing between the Rochdale-Halifax and the Burnley-Halifax lines. This easement applies in both directions.

Journeys from stations on the Barton-on-Humber line to Habrough and stations west of 000005 Manual Habrough may double back between Habrough and Grimsby. This easement applies in

Journeys to Chathill from the north may change trains at Alnmouth and double back to Chathill. This easement applies in both directions.

Journeys from or via Poulton-le-Fylde to Layton may double back from Blackpool North. This easement applies in both directions.

Journeys from or via Manningtree to Southend Victoria, priced and marked to go via London, may double back through Shenfield. This easement applies in both directions.

Journeys from Chathill, Alnmouth, Acklington, Widdrington, Pegswood, Morpeth, Cramlington and Manors to Berwick-upon-Tweed and stations in Scotland may double back from Newcastle on tickets routed "Any Permitted". This easement applies in both directions.

Journeys from Rochester, Chatham, Gillingham Kent, Rainham Kent, Newington, Sittingbourne, Kemsley, Swale, Queenborough, Sheerness, Teynham, Faversham, Selling, Whitstable, Chestfield & Swalecliffe, Herne Bay, Birchington, Westgate and Margate to Sevenoaks, Bat & Ball, Shoreham Kent and Otford may double back between Bromley South and Swanley. This easement applies both ways.

Journeys to Wick may double back between Thurso and Georgemas Junction. This easement applies in both directions.

Journeys between Spondon and Long Eaton may double back via Derby. This easement applies in both directions.

Journeys from Appleford and beyond to or via Swindon routed (00700) NOT VIA 000082 Doubleback LONDON, (00405) AP OXFORD and (00415) AP NOT VIA LONDON may double back

Passengers for Aviemore and Carrbridge are permitted to alight from the sleeper at Inverness and double back to their destination in the morning.

Journeys via Tamworth and Birmingham New Street may double back through Water Orton. This easement applies in both directions.

Journeys from south of Droitwich Spa or north of Dudley Port may doubleback between Birmingham New street, Smethwick Rolfe Street and Smethwick Galton Bridge. This easement applies in both directions and on Saturdays and Sundays only.

Journeys to North Berwick are allowed via Edinburgh even when doubleing back through Drem. This easement applies in both directions.

Customers travelling to Kennett from the west may doubleback via Bury St Edmunds. This easement applies in both directions.

Journeys from Greenford, South Greenford, Castle Bar Park, Drayton Green and West 030077 Doubleback Ealing travelling via Southall may doubleback via Ealing Broadway. This easement

Journeys to Long Eaton may double back via Derby on Sundays. This easement applies in both directions.

Customer travelling via Ford may doubleback via Barnham. This easement applies in both directions.

Shipley to Runcorn, double back via Liverpool Lime Street.

Customers travelling from Dilton Marsh to Westbury and beyond may doubleback via Warminster. This easement applies in both directions.

Customers travelling via Liverpool South Parkway to or from Runcorn may doubleback via Liverpool Lime Street. This easement applies in both directions.

Customers travelling from Chessington to Basingstoke may doubleback beween Wimbledon and Clapham Junction. This easement applies in both directions.

to allow the doubleback Dilton Marsh to Westbury via Warminster, even though the 030154 Local fare for the doubleback through the origin/destination is higher than the overall fare.

Customers travelling via Sheffield to stations on the Buxton line may doubleback between Stockport and Hazel Grove. Thius easement applies in both directions.

Customers travelling via Wellingborough to or from Luton may doubleback via Luton Airport Parkway. This easement applies in both directions

Customers travelling from Bournemouth and stations to the west thereof to Redbridge may doubleback via Southampton Central. This easement applies in both directions.

Journeys from Dockyard to Liskeard and beyond may doubleback via Devonport. This easement applies in both directions.

Customers travelling to or from Tyseley may doubleback from Birmingham Moor Street. This easement applies in both directions.

Customers travelling from St Budeaux Ferry Road to Liskeard and beyond may doubleback via Plymouth. This easement applies in both directions.

Customers travelling via Grove Park or Lea in possesion of tickets routed NOT VALID ON HS1 (High Speed line 1 - St Pancras to Channel Tunnel) may doubleback via New Cross. This easement applies in both directions.

Customers travelling from Guide Bridge to Stalybridge and beyond may doubleback via Manchester Piccadilly. This easement applies in both directions.

Customers travelling between Chichester and Cosham may double back between Hilsea and Fratton. This easement applies in both directions.

Tickets with the following route codes may be used to double back between Clapham Junction and London Waterloo. (Any Permitted, London, London Not Underground, Not Valid on HS1, AP London Woking)

Customers travelling via Grove Park or Lee possesion of tickets routed NOT VALID ON HS1 may doubleback via Hither Green. This easement applies in both directions.

Customers may double back between Smethwick Galton Bridge and Birmingham New Street when travelling on long distance services via Droitwich Spa.

Tickets with the following route codes may be used to double back between Clapham 700013 Doubleback Junction and London Victoria. (London, London Not Underground, Not Valid on HS1, AP

Tickets with the following route codes may be used to double back between New Cross and London Bridge (Any Permitted, Not Valid on HS1)

Journeys from Worcester Stations to Hartlebury may double back via Kidderminster. This easement applies in both directions.

Customers may double back when travelling between Cheadle Hulme and Stockport

Customers may double back between Canley and Coventry.

Customers travelling from stations North of Cheshunt via Cambridge and Hitchin to 700070 Doubleback stations North of Hitchin may double back between Hitchin and Stevenage. This

Customers travelling from Drumgelloch, Airdrie, Coatdyke, Coatbridge Sunnyside, 700077 Doubleback Blairhill, Easterhouse, Garrowhill, Shettleston and Carntyne to Springburn may travel

Customers travelling via Yate to Stonehouse or Stroud in possession of tickets routed 700086 Doubleback 'Any Permitted' may double back between Gloucester and Cheltenham Spa. This

Customers in possession of tickets routed "Any Permitted" may double back between Gloucester and Cheltenham Spa.

Customers travelling from Dore via Chinley may double back via Sheffield. This easement applies in both directions.

Customers travelling via Audley End to Stansted Airport amy double back between Stansted Mountfitchet and Bishops Stortford. This easement applies in both directions

Allow a doubleback between Bournville and University for journeys between Bournville and Worcester Stations

Customers travelling from, to or via Truro to St Ives, Carbis Bay, Lelant and Lelant 700221 Doubleback Saltings may double back between St Erth and Penzance. This easement applies in

Customers travelling from/to/via Runcorn via Warrington Bank Quay may double back between Acton Bridge and Crewe. This easement applies in both directions

Customers travelling from/to/via Bristol Parkway via Chepstow may double back between Severn Tunnel Junction and Newport. This easement applies in both directions.

Customers travelling via Carstairs to Uddingston, Bellshill, Blantyre, Hamilton West, Hamilton Central, Airbles, Chatelherault, Merryton and Larkhall may double back between Glasgow Central and Newton Lanark. This easement applies in both directions.

Customers travelling via Lockerbie to Carstairs may double back via Glasgow Central. This easement applies in both directions.

Customers travelling from or via Pevensey & Westham to Polegate and beyond may double back between Hampden Park and Eastbourne. This easement applies in both directions.

Customers travelling from Ore to Three Oaks, Doleham, Winchelsea, Rye, Appledore, Ham Street, Ashford International and beyond may double back via Hastings. This easement applies in both directions.

Customers travelling via Carstairs to Uddingston, Bellshill, Holytown and beyond in possession of tickets routed "Any Permitted" may double back between Newton and Glasgow Central. This easement applies in both directions.

Customers travelling from/to/via Bristol Temple Meads via Chepstow may double back 700232 Doubleback between Severn Tunnel Junction and Newport. This easement applies in both

Customers travelling via Carstairs to Motherwell, Shieldmuir, Wishaw, Carluke or Lanark 700245 Doubleback may double back between Glasgow Central and Motherwell. This easement applies in

Customers travelling from or via Bury St Edmunds to Norwich and beyond may double back between Stowmarket and Ipswich. This easement applies in both directions

Customers travelling from Felixstowe, Trimley, Derby Road and Westerfield to Woodbridge, Melton, Wickham Market, Saxmundham, Darsham, Halesworth, Brampton, Beccles, Oulton Broad South and Lowestoft may double back between Westerfield and Ipswich. This easement applies in both directions.

Customers travelling from Havenhouse to Wainfleet and beyond may double back via Skegness. This easement applies in both directions.

Customers travelling from Heathrow Terminals 1-3, Heathrow Terminal 4 or Heathrow Terminal 5 to West Drayton, Iver or Langley may double back between Southall and London Paddington. This easement applies in both directions.

Customers travelling from Dullingham to Cambridge and beyond may double back via Newmarket. This easement applies in both directions.

Customers travelling from Heathrow Terminal 1-3, Heathrow Terminal 4 and Heathrow 700272 Doubleback Terminal 5 via Slough in possession of tickets routed "Any Permitted" may double back

Customers travelling from Arundel, Amberley, Pulborough, Billingshurst, Christs Hospital, Horsham, Littlehaven and Faygate via Crawley to Haywards Heath and beyond may double back between Three Bridges and Gatwick Airport. This easement applies in both directions.

Customers travelling from Hunts Cross via Warrington Central and Wigan North 700289 Doubleback Western may double back via Liverpool South Parkway. This easement applies in both

Customers travelling via Southampton Airport Parkway to Bitterne, Woolston, Sholing, Netley, Hamble, Bursledon, Swanwick, Fareham and beyond may double back between St Denys and Southampton Central. This easement applies in both directions.

Customers travelling via Seven Tunnel Junction to Bromsgrove may double back via University. This easement applies in both directions.

Customers travelling via Stalybridge to Hyde North, Hyde Central, Woodley, Rose Hill Marple and via Romiley may double back between Guide Bridge and Manchester Piccadilly. This easement applies in both directions.

Customers travelling from Norton Bridge via Crewe may double back via Stafford. This easement applies in both directions.

Customers travelling from Brentwood to Stratford (London) or beyond may double back via Shenfield. They may not leave the station. This easement applies in both directions.

Customers travelling via Liverpool South Parkway to Edge Hill may double back via Liverpool Lime Street. This easement applies in both directions.

Customers travelling from Tattenham Corner, Tadworth, Kingswood, Chipstead, 700321 Doubleback Woodmansterne, Coulsdon South and Reedham to Redhill and beyond may double

Customers travelling from or via Cheltenham Spa to Barnt Green may double back via University (Birmingham). This easement applies in both directions.

Customers travelling from Glossop, Hadfield, Dinting, Broadbottom, Hattersley, Godley, Newton for Hyde and Flowery Field to Stalybridge and beyond may double back between Guide Bridge and Manchester Piccadilly. This easement applies in both directions.

Customers travelling via Yate to Bromsgrove in possession of tickets routed "Any 700351 Doubleback Permitted" may double back via Birmingham New Street. This easement applies in both

Customers travelling from Hitchin to Peterborough in possession of tickets routed "Not via London" may double back via Stevenage. This easement applies in both directions.

Customers travelling from Newbury via Bedwyn may double back via Reading. This easement applies in both directions.

Customers travelling from Hitchin via Peterborough in possession of tickets routed 700379 Doubleback either "Not via London" or "Peterborough & EC" may double back via Stevenage. This

Customers travelling from Harling Road, Eccles Road or Spooner Row to Ely and beyond may double back via Norwich. This easement applies in both directions.

Customers travelling from Llanfairfechan, Penmaenmawr and Conwy via Bangor may double back via Llandudno Junction. This easement applies in both directions.

Customers travelling from or via Bromsgrove to Alvechurch and Redditch in posession of tickets routed (00000) ANY PERMITTED, (00439) XC (Cross Country Trains (franchise)) & CONNECTIONS, (00817) VIA BRISTOL may double back between Barnt Green and Birmingham New Street. This easement applies in both directions.

Customers travelling from or via Motspur Park to Surbiton and beyond in possession of tixkets routed "not via London" may double back between Raynes Park and Wimbledon. This easement applies in both directions.

Customers travelling from or via Leamington Spa to Claverdon, Bearley, Wilmcote, Stratford Parkway or Stratford Upon Avon may double back between Hatton, Lapworth, Dorridge, Widney Manor and Solihull. This easement applies in both directions.

Customers travelling from or via Mitcham Junction to Streatham Common and beyond in possession of tickets routed "Not via London" may double back between Balham, Wandsworth Common and Clapham Junction. This easement applies in both directions.

Customers travelling from Taunton to Castle Cary in possession of tickets routed "via Westbury" may double back between Castle Cary and Westbury. This easement applies in both directions.

Customers travelling from Northampton to or via Stafford in possession of tickets 700438 Doubleback routed "Any Permitted may double back via Milton Keynes. This easement applies in

Customers travelling from or via Bromsgrove to Alvechurch or Redditch in possession 700445 Doubleback of tickets routed "Not Via Birmingham" may double back between Barnt Green and

Customers travelling from Buxton, Dove Holes, Chapel en le Frith, Whaley Bridge, Furness Vale, New Mills Newtown, Disley, Middlewood and Hazel Grove to Sheffield and beyond in possession of tickets routed "Any Permitted" may double back between Hazel Grove and Stockport. This easement applies in both directions.

Customers travelling from Epsom to Redhill and beyond in possession of tickets routed 700449 Doubleback "Not via London" may double back between Balham and Clapham Junction. This

Customers travelling from or via Surbiton to Motspur Park and beyond in possession of tickets routed "not via London"or "Any Permitted may double back between Raynes Park, Wimbledon, Earlsfield and Clapham Junction. This easement applies in both directions.

Customers travelling from or via Haywards Heath to Crawley, Ifield, Faygate and beyond in possession of tickets routed "Not Clapham Junction" or "via Horsham" may double back between Three Bridges and Gatwick Airport. This easement applies in both directions.

Customers travelling from or via Chinley, New Mills Central, Strines, Marple, Rose Hill Marple, Romiley, Bredbury, Brinnington, Reddish North, Ryder Brow or Belle Vue to Guide Bridge and beyond may double back between Ashburys and Manchester Piccadilly. This easement applies in both directions.

Customers travelling via Surbiton to or via New Malden in possession of tickets routed 700462 Doubleback "Honiton not London" may double back between New Malden, Raynes Park,

Customers travelling via Worcester Stations to Longbridge and Barnt Green in 700473 Doubleback possession of tickets routed "Any Permitted" may double back via Birmingham New

Customers travelling via Worcester Stations to Longbridge and Barnt Green in possession of tickets routed "Not via Birmingham" may double back via University Station. This easement applies in both directions.

Customers travelling via Berwick Upon Tweed to stations Musselburgh, Wallyford, Prestonpans, Longniddry, Drem, North Berwick and Dunbar in possession of tickets routed "Any Permitted" or "EC & Connections" may double back via Edinburgh. This easement applies in both directions.

Customers travelling from Preston Park, Hassocks or Burgess Hill to Lewes and beyond may double back between Wivelsfield and Haywards Heath. This easement applies in both directions.

Customers travelling from Oxenholme or Kendal to Staveley or Burneside may double back via Windermere. This easement applies in both directions.

Customers travelling from Great Yarmouth and Berney Arms to Lowestoft may double 700492 Doubleback back between Reedham, Cantley, Buckenham and Brundall. This easement applies in

Customers travelling from Barnsley, Wombwell, Elsecar and Chapletown to or via 700507 Doubleback Doncaster may double back between Meadowhall and Sheffield. This easement applies

Passengers travelling from or via Peterborough to Hitchin may doubleback at Stevenage. This easement applies in both directions

This positive Doubleback easement has been published to allow customers travelling from North Wales and Chester to Scotland via Manchester and onward on First TransPennine Express (FTPE» (First TransPennine Express - website)) services to travel to Manchester via Eccles. FTPE services are also routed through Eccles. This easement will allow interchange at Manchester Piccadilly and Manchester Oxford Road. This easement applies in both directions

This Positive Doubleback easement will allow Journey Planners to show itineraries

between Chester/Hooton and Sandhills (a station within the G18 Liverpool Routeing 700571 Doubleback Group), where the journey from the Origin station travels through Moorfields to

Liverpool Central and then doublebacks through Moorfields on the second leg of the journey to the Destination station. This easement applies in both directions.

Customers from Colne, Nelson, Briefield, Burnley Central, Burnley Barracks, Rose Grove, Hapton and Huncoat travelling to or via Burnley Manchester Road may doubleback between Accrington and Rose Grove. This positive doubleback easement operates in both directions

To allow journeys between Eaglescliff and York using tickets on fare route 00099 Not 700590 Doubleback Via Darlington to Doubleback at Thornaby. This positive doubleback easement will

For journeys from or via Goole to destinations on the route between Doncaster, Scunthorpe and Cleethorpes may doubleback through Hatfield & Stainforth. This positive doubleback easement applies in both directions.

From 07 August 2016 customers travelling from Bromsgrove to Cheltenham Spa on route (00000) ANY PERMITTED may doubleback at University Birmingham station. this positive doubleback easement applies in both directions

700600 Local doubleback between Islip and Oxford Parkway. This positive local easement applies in

Journeys from Hersham and Esher to Dorking via Wimbledon are not being shown in Journey planners due to a double back. This positive Doubleback Easement will allow travel via Wimbledon and Raynes Park for tickets priced on Fare Route VIA EPSOM (00718). This easement will apply in both directions.

To ensure journey opportunities to Denham Golf Club from Wembley Stadium, Sudbury & Harrow Road, Sudbury Hill (Harrow), Northolt Park, South Ruislip and West Ruislip are retained when timetables change on the 15 May 2016, this Positive Local easement will allow journeys to doubleback at Gerrards Cross.

Easement 000065 is a local easement that allows journeys from Chathill, Alnmouth, Acklington, Widdrington, Pegswood, Morpeth, Cramlington and Manors to Berwick- upon-Tweed and stations in Scotland may double back from Newcastle on tickets routed "Any Permitted". This routeing point easement will override NFM64 fares checking at Newcastle and applies in both directions.

From 02 to 15 September, and the weekends of the 04/5 and 11/12 November 2017 during engineering diversions via Newport South Wales (with journeys travelling through Severn Tunnel Junction twice). This doubleback easement will apply in both directions.

Customers travelling to Cambridge North, from Waterbeach, Ely, Littleport, Downham 700713 Doubleback Market, Watlington and Kings Lynn are permitted to doubleback via Cambridge. This

positive doubleback easement applies in both directions

Journeys via Bath or Chippenham to Dean or Dunbridge may not double back from Romsey. This probibition applies in both directions.

Circuitous Route Journeys to or from Horley via Redhill may not doubleback via Gatwick Airport. This easement applies in both directions.

Circuitous Route Customers traveliing to our from Flixton via Birchwood may not doubleback via Urmston. This easement applies in both directions.

Circuitous Route Customers travelling from Burnham via Maidenhead may not double back via Slough. This easement applies in both directions.

Circuitous Route Journeys to or from Leyland via Chorley OR Wigan North Western may not doubleback via Preston. This easement applies in both directions.

Customers travelling from Deighton via Mirfield may not double back via Huddersfield. This easement applies in both directions.

Circuitous Route Customers travelling via Gillingham to Chestfield and Swalecliffe may not double back via Herne Bay. This easement applies in both directions.

Journeys from or via London Kings Cross to Morpeth are not permitted to doubleback at Alnmouth. This negative doubleback easement applies in both directions.
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« Reply #153 on: December 13, 2017, 16:40:13 »

I love the concept of the "negative easement". Could this be a difficult-ment?
Something like 'curtailment' perhaps ...

Graeme lists the 'doubling back' ones, but Circuitous Routes is a similar category. My favourite there is
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Customers travelling from Appleford to Didcot Parkway and beyond in possession of tickets routed either "Any Permitted" or "Great Western Only" may not travel via Culham. This easement applies in both directions.
There are precious few trains that stop at both Appleford and Culham for this to be an issue surely.
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« Reply #154 on: December 13, 2017, 16:44:03 »

There is a specific negative easement in place:

700309 Circuitous Route Customers travelling via Reading to Thatcham may not travel via Newbury. This easement applies in both directions.

This suggests, maybe that it was at one time permitted, or at least not otherwise barred.
I love the concept of the "negative easement". Could this be a difficult-ment?

Negative easement.......the fruitless efforts of one suffering from chronic constipation?..............or alternatively for those more successful in their efforts "How much longer will you be? Are you reading a newspaper in there?" "Negative.Easement"
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« Reply #155 on: December 13, 2017, 16:56:29 »

Some of the ones in the long list are rather special.

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Journeys to Chathill from the north may change trains at Alnmouth and double back to Chathill. This easement applies in both directions.

The idea that one could get to Chathill from the north direct dates back by quite a long time.

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Journeys to Wick may double back between Thurso and Georgemas Junction. This easement applies in both directions.

This is a very generous concession : it's the way the train goes. Isn't there something in the Routeing Guide that says that direct trains trump everything else?
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« Reply #156 on: December 13, 2017, 17:21:19 »


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Journeys to Wick may double back between Thurso and Georgemas Junction. This easement applies in both directions.

This is a very generous concession : it's the way the train goes. Isn't there something in the Routeing Guide that says that direct trains trump everything else?

I think it trumps everything else except where it doesn't.  Aren't there issues on the Fife circle.  Agreed that "double back via Thurso" is generous.  Can you imaging turfing passengers out at Georgemas to have them get back on quarter of an hour later!
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« Reply #157 on: December 13, 2017, 17:41:54 »

The 18.42 never arrives on time and has been running an average of 7.5mins late for the past month - often 15 to 20 mins late.  If I arrive at Paddington at 18.00 or thereabouts to catch the 18.18 then extending my journey by a further 20, 30 or 40mins is not acceptable in my opinion.

A very poor performer, though it has been on time on three occasions in the last two months!  I am expecting performance of Maidenhead (both stoppers and semi-fasts) trains to improve somewhat after the electric service to Didcot is launched in a few weeks.  Currently there is great pressure on the layout at Maidenhead, even though it has been improved to be much more flexible than it was.  Trains terminating and shunting the the turnback siding or stabling sidings, and the number of balancing ECS (Empty Coaching Stock) moves will reduce very significantly.  There are currently a total of 16 trains that use the turnback and a total of 21 daily moves into and out of the stabling sidings.  That reduces to 2 and 7 respectively from January, and the number of trains turning back in service in the platforms also decreases.

That should mean much less waiting for platforms.  Coupled with the significant improvements to the service, especially on the return from Paddington in the evening and I'm optimistic you'll be a more content commuter next year, NickB!
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« Reply #158 on: December 13, 2017, 17:53:10 »

I am buoyed by your assurances II !!!
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« Reply #159 on: December 14, 2017, 09:49:28 »

Currently there is great pressure on the layout at Maidenhead, even though it has been improved to be much more flexible than it was.  Trains terminating and shunting the the turnback siding or stabling sidings, and the number of balancing ECS (Empty Coaching Stock) moves will reduce very significantly.  There are currently a total of 16 trains that use the turnback and a total of 21 daily moves into and out of the stabling sidings.  That reduces to 2 and 7 respectively from January, and the number of trains turning back in service in the platforms also decreases.

That should mean much less waiting for platforms.  Coupled with the significant improvements to the service, especially on the return from Paddington in the evening and I'm optimistic you'll be a more content commuter next year, NickB!

Its actually quite interesting at Maidenhead now - you get freight flying through platform 5, local stoppers calling at platform 1, trains from London pulling into platform 4. It's not exactly fun not knowing which platform you might need to be on, or end up at; but it certainly shows the flexibility!

Earlier this week there were at least 2 Oxford/Banbury stoppers that had last minute changes to Platform 1 (I missed both of them as I wasn't willing to run down the stairs and up the otherside with all the slippery steps and underpass), while the electric services sat in platforms 3 and 4.

This morning I arrived on platform 5 rather than the usual platform 4 - and as the doors opened there was an electric service pulling into platform 4. Not sure who crossed in front of who, but it must have been timed like clockwork as both trains were seemingly moving into the platforms together!
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« Reply #160 on: December 14, 2017, 16:50:22 »

The 18.18 Paddington to Oxford is former of 3 rather than 6 coaches this evening due to a broken down train. Sadly no surprise there but what did interest me is that Maidenhead (first calling point) has been struck from the list. All other stations will be served as normal.
As anyone familiar with this service will attest, it is the busiest service for Maidenhead passengers of the evening peak. Perhaps 80% of passengers disembark there and it is always full and standing.
Has this train had Maidenhead struck from its calling points in order to avoid the overcrowding that would ensue on the remaining 3 coaches?  If so that is bad form in my opinion.

Cancelled completely tonight.........

18:18 London Paddington to Oxford due 19:45 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
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« Reply #161 on: December 14, 2017, 17:24:25 »

They’ve also cancelled all of the subsequent xx:18 services all the way until close. So that is all of the late night services to Oxford cancelled. On what is possibly peak ‘office Christmas party’ night.

Merry Christmas.
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« Reply #162 on: December 14, 2017, 17:33:41 »

They’ve also cancelled all of the subsequent xx:18 services all the way until close. So that is all of the late night services to Oxford cancelled. On what is possibly peak ‘office Christmas party’ night.

Merry Christmas.

Maybe it's peak GWR (Great Western Railway) Christmas party night?
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« Reply #163 on: December 14, 2017, 20:21:21 »



Maybe it's peak GWR (Great Western Railway) Christmas party night?

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Everynight is GWR party night! 😋
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« Reply #164 on: December 14, 2017, 20:24:43 »

This won't help either......one of the brand new trains?

Alterations to services at London Paddington
Due to a broken down train at London Paddington some lines are blocked.
Train services running to and from this station may be delayed or revised. Disruption is expected until 21:00 14/12.
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