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« Reply #165 on: December 14, 2017, 21:15:39 »

I am not convinced that GWR (Great Western Railway) know what they are doing anymore.
Tonight the train forming the 1707 Oxford to Paddington came into Oxford station everybody got on and we then sat there for a few minutes as 1707 came and went. Eventually a member of staff came on-board and announced that everybody should get off as the train was now cancelled due to a shortage of drivers. The train was also short formed being 2 carriages rather than the normal 3.
Surely GWR must know whether there is a driver available before they allow passengers on board and of course blocking platform 3 at Oxford has a knock on effect to all following trains with it being the only platform that UP trains can leave towards Paddington.
Eventually a driver turned up to take the set back to the siding and we all had to wait for the 1737 which was also delayed.
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« Reply #166 on: December 14, 2017, 21:26:35 »

That’s what happens when you get rid of key operational staff like the ones that were removed from Oxford earlier in the year.  The good news is that those staff are being reinstated within the next month or so after several service meltdowns have prompted management to realise that actuallly they were costing the company more by not having them there!
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« Reply #167 on: December 14, 2017, 21:32:32 »

This won't help either......one of the brand new trains?

Yes, a brake fault on the 19:30 PAD» (Paddington (London) - next trains)-WSM shortly after leaving Paddington.
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« Reply #168 on: December 19, 2017, 19:26:45 »

Eh?  Huh

25 London Paddington to Oxford due 20:28
18:25 London Paddington to Oxford due 20:28 will no longer call at Burnham, Taplow, Maidenhead and Twyford.
It has been delayed between London Paddington and Hayes & Harlington and is now 19 minutes late.
This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time.
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« Reply #169 on: December 19, 2017, 20:35:13 »

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« Reply #170 on: December 19, 2017, 21:23:18 »

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25 London Paddington to Oxford due 20:28
18:25 London Paddington to Oxford due 20:28 will no longer call at Burnham, Taplow, Maidenhead and Twyford.
It has been delayed between London Paddington and Hayes & Harlington and is now 19 minutes late.
This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time.
Seems like the excuse generator needs a kick.
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« Reply #171 on: December 19, 2017, 22:40:49 »

Seems like the excuse generator needs a kick.

Is that like Premium Bond ERNIE?  Excuses Randomly kNocked out In Emergency.
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« Reply #172 on: December 20, 2017, 09:50:01 »

That’s what happens when you get rid of key operational staff like the ones that were removed from Oxford earlier in the year.  The good news is that those staff are being reinstated within the next month or so after several service meltdowns have prompted management to realise that actuallly they were costing the company more by not having them there!

The sheer managerial incompetence in removing these posts in the first place, without realisng the benefits they brought in keeping the service going, is disappointing and depressing.

May also be relevant to Driver shortage.  Qualified Drivers can move between TOC (Train Operating Company)’s, and obviously will move to where their working environment is better.  How many would want to join GWR (Great Western Railway)?
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« Reply #173 on: December 20, 2017, 10:21:28 »

That’s what happens when you get rid of key operational staff like the ones that were removed from Oxford earlier in the year.  The good news is that those staff are being reinstated within the next month or so after several service meltdowns have prompted management to realise that actuallly they were costing the company more by not having them there!
The sheer managerial incompetence in removing these posts in the first place, without realisng the benefits they brought in keeping the service going, is disappointing and depressing.

Happens a lot unfortunately.  Managers come in from outside the industry and are keen to create an impression and 'modernise' the railway.  Those that set the budgets continue to demand savings from their departments.  Inexperienced managers see large headline salary savings of £+100k a year, but don't properly consider exactly why a given job has existed for over a hundred years.  Pleas from local staff (including local management) get ignored.  Decisions are made without realising they create a false economy.  Passengers and staff then suffer the consequences before it is eventually realised that the job is necessary and so it gets reinstated, often after the original manager has moved on.
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« Reply #174 on: December 20, 2017, 11:28:54 »

Happens a lot unfortunately.  Managers come in from outside the industry and are keen to create an impression and 'modernise' the railway.  Those that set the budgets continue to demand savings from their departments.  Inexperienced managers see large headline salary savings of £+100k a year, but don't properly consider exactly why a given job has existed for over a hundred years.  Pleas from local staff (including local management) get ignored.  Decisions are made without realising they create a false economy.  Passengers and staff then suffer the consequences before it is eventually realised that the job is necessary and so it gets reinstated, often after the original manager has moved on.
The disappointing thing is Mark Hopwood being a railway man should know this and not allow it to happen.
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« Reply #175 on: December 20, 2017, 17:05:55 »

I doubt decisions like those under discussion ever reach his desk....
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« Reply #176 on: December 20, 2017, 17:28:27 »

Many similar ones might not, but I can assure you that particular one did!
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« Reply #177 on: December 20, 2017, 18:56:25 »

I doubt decisions like those under discussion ever reach his desk....
Well they should as should many others that let the company he manages down.
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« Reply #178 on: December 20, 2017, 20:39:23 »

That's what you delegate to other Directors.
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« Reply #179 on: December 20, 2017, 21:35:38 »

That's what you delegate to other Directors.

The one thing you can't delegate is accountability.
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