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Author Topic: Shortage of train crews on Great Western Railway since September 2017 - ongoing discussion  (Read 108399 times)
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« Reply #1050 on: July 06, 2019, 12:34:08 pm »

Two trains cancelled from Paignton between the 12.33 and 13.26 which includes the London departure. Just as well the tide is out at Dawlish. or bang goes the XCountry.

Torquay and Paignton are the 3rd and 4th biggest settlements in Devon and it is holiday changeover day; so very poor for a line not technically a branch..
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« Reply #1051 on: July 06, 2019, 12:38:25 pm »

So was I. Luckily, living near to Maiden Newton, I can decide on the day, since the decision on the service is only made that morning.
I do feel for the Swanage Railway. If itís not strikes bedevilling this Saturday service now itís lack of traincrew to run it.
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« Reply #1052 on: July 06, 2019, 04:52:29 pm »

I do feel for the Swanage Railway. If itís not strikes bedevilling this Saturday service now itís lack of traincrew to run it.

I feel for them too - not only in lost revenue, but in loss of reputation to have a combined service run as advertised.  And that has an effect long after the day of the cancelled trains.

Sadly, many people learn the hard way that you need a safety net and backup plan if you're going to put your faith in the wider rail industry.   Lesson first learned 15 years ago when all the ducks were in line to start the build of Corsham station and someone pulled the plug on the Bristol <-> Oxford trains which would have served it.  Lesson repeated many times since.
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« Reply #1053 on: July 06, 2019, 05:54:05 pm »

They managed to find stock and crew for the afternoon service from Yeovil to Weymouth and return to London. However one more Exeter service(1420) and return (1825) stopped/begins at Salisbury.
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« Reply #1054 on: July 07, 2019, 10:42:35 am »

Various list this morning of services cancelled or altered due to lack of staff, with Bedwyn services operating using 3 car turbos instead of IETs
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« Reply #1055 on: July 07, 2019, 12:24:29 pm »

Various list this morning of services cancelled or altered due to lack of staff, with Bedwyn services operating using 3 car turbos instead of IETs

39 longer distance services with no catering due to staff shortages too.......hopefully Broadgage isn't feeling hungry today!

Seriously however that must represent quite a loss of revenue to GWR as well as goodwill.
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« Reply #1056 on: July 07, 2019, 12:34:46 pm »

Broadgage has the sense to avoid weekend trains, unless some exceptional circumstance requires weekend train travel.

No Pullman
No proper first class.
More screaming infants/children.
Greater risk of bustitution.
And increasingly not even a trolley.
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It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #1057 on: July 07, 2019, 01:05:14 pm »

Cor blimey, the're already putting up tomorrows cancellations now and its only just, well one hour past, midday.
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« Reply #1058 on: July 07, 2019, 01:09:42 pm »

Cor blimey, the're already putting up tomorrows cancellations now and its only just, well one hour past, midday.

Which is a very good thing to do - the more notice the better.  As long as they are cancellations and theyíre not cancellations that end up being cancelled!
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« Reply #1059 on: July 07, 2019, 01:11:05 pm »

39 longer distance services with no catering due to staff shortages too.......hopefully Broadgage isn't feeling hungry today!
Seems to be quite a high number today. Not the catering teamís annual BBQ today is it?

On a more serious note, at least the train is running and Broadgage isnít travelling today.

PS Pleased to see the 1203 Paddington-Penzance calling additionally at Pewsey, Westbury and Castle Cary in lieu of the 1142 Paddington-Paignton service being cancelled; though it might be a bit cozy on this train. On any other weekend Westbury passengers can change at Bath Spa but not today with engineering work taking place in the Bath area.
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« Reply #1060 on: July 07, 2019, 01:17:43 pm »

Broadgage has the sense to avoid weekend trains, unless some exceptional circumstance requires weekend train travel.
I do as well if I can especially Sundays. It just seems that rail travel on weekends is second rate for reasons youíve listed as well as train crew shortages.
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« Reply #1061 on: July 07, 2019, 03:08:36 pm »

Weekends have certainly become incredibly popular for rail travel within the last 20 or so years.  Back then it used to be steady on a Saturday, dead on a Sunday morning and then get a bit busy on Sunday afternoons - many places had a poor or non-existent Sunday morning service anyway, which is slowly getting better. 

Nowadays Saturday mornings and evenings are very busy, and on Sunday it is busy from the off, building to near (and sometimes beyond) breaking point in the mid-afternoon.
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« Reply #1062 on: July 07, 2019, 03:53:16 pm »

Weekends have certainly become incredibly popular for rail travel within the last 20 or so years.  Back then it used to be steady on a Saturday, dead on a Sunday morning and then get a bit busy on Sunday afternoons - many places had a poor or non-existent Sunday morning service anyway, which is slowly getting better. 

Nowadays Saturday mornings and evenings are very busy, and on Sunday it is busy from the off, building to near (and sometimes beyond) breaking point in the mid-afternoon.

Probably best to ensure that there's enough crew available to reflect that before it becomes "dead" again as everyone gives up and returns to the road?

The crew shortage issue is now also seeping into the weekday service as we are seeing, and we aren't even into the school holiday season yet.
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« Reply #1063 on: July 07, 2019, 04:34:55 pm »

Yes, indeed, especially on Sundays as we have discussed at length.

There's no sign of much 'giving up' as yet - latest results and journeys are up another 3% on last year to 1.759 billion a year.  I distinctly remember the 'Thanks a billion' poster from around 15 years ago when that mark was hit for the first time since the 60s.  It won't be long before we're at double that!

I'm not trying to make excuses, and the railway is certainly guilty of being slow to react to change, but a look at the graph https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rail_transport_in_Great_Britain#/media/File:GBR_rail_passengers_by_year_1830-2015.png and you can clearly see why the industry has struggled to cope.  Other periods where there were sustained increases at the current rate were when new railways were being built everywhere in the late 19th and early 20th centuries, or in the immediate aftermath of WW1 and WW2 when the infrastructure was there but the demand unsurprisingly suppressed during the war years. 

The last 20 years has seen journeys nearly triple since the low point in 'the good old days' in the 80s and have to be accommodated with hardly any new lines and only very modest improvements to the existing ones.
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« Reply #1064 on: July 12, 2019, 06:45:02 pm »

A number of services cancelled this afternoon/evening due to crew shortage but cancelling this one is particularly poor on a Friday night...


23:42 London Paddington to Oxford due 01:01 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
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