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Author Topic: IETs into passenger service from 16 Oct 2017 and subsequent performance issues  (Read 179353 times)
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« Reply #1860 on: June 28, 2019, 12:46:17 pm »

There has been some shuffling about.

The 12:03 London Paddington to Penzance is back up to 10 coaches after combining two five car arrivals from Bedwyn and Bristol Temple Meads
The 12:33 to Taunton is now 9 cars with the 5 cars originally earmarked for that service now going to Oxford.
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« Reply #1861 on: June 28, 2019, 03:01:30 pm »

Journey check is not that reliable but should give some idea of the actual position.

To be honest itís not even accurate enough to give you some idea.  Iíve just checked the next 5 arrivals/departures at Paddington listed as short formed and according to the unit allocations all are in fact 9 or 10 cars.  This includes the 16:33 and 18:33 to the WoE.
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« Reply #1862 on: June 28, 2019, 04:45:47 pm »

1A88 12:04 PNZ-PAD has apparently failed at Westbury so that might affect unit availability in this evening's peak.
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« Reply #1863 on: June 28, 2019, 04:56:50 pm »

1A88 presumably diverted into Wesbury and offloaded passengers, as it's now passing Lavington as ECS to Paddington.
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« Reply #1864 on: June 28, 2019, 05:20:53 pm »

Journey check is not that reliable but should give some idea of the actual position.

To be honest itís not even accurate enough to give you some idea.  Iíve just checked the next 5 arrivals/departures at Paddington listed as short formed and according to the unit allocations all are in fact 9 or 10 cars.  This includes the 16:33 and 18:33 to the WoE.

I think JourneyCheck may be correct at the start of service..... and then the juggling takes place and sets that are out of traffic may come good during the day.
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« Reply #1865 on: June 28, 2019, 06:03:10 pm »

Very sadly there's a PHBT near Slough so everything's come to a standstill anyway.
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« Reply #1866 on: June 29, 2019, 09:54:12 am »

Latest installment of the mess that is 1B46 last night. I hesitated to post this, as the poor GWR employee on the ground was clearly doing his best and even gave me a £5 drinks voucher (I must have developed a very good disappointed face); but he had been put, far from atypically, in an impossible situation by his superiors, and they deserve having this posted where Mark Hopwood can read it.

Started off with two very bad signs. First, Murco had decided to run their rush-hour-wrecking Theale to Robeston oil empties (this path doesn't work and should be retimed), which had entirely predictably made it quarter of an hour late. Secondly, it was in the worst possible 5+5 formation: First Class in carriages 4, 5, 6, and 7 (this really should be avoided).

So obviously, I didn't want to sit in carriages 4 or 7, as the horrible composite design just means that you continually get passengers traipsing through between Standard and the end vestibule. I also did not want to sit in carriage 6, as all but a handful of the seats are backwards. So carriage 5 it had to be.

We then got the predictable fun of the staff trying to direct Standard Class passengers towards the ends of the train, morons who don't listen trying to enter the kitchen. There was also the minor annoyance of a noisy pram, made worse by even noisier older sibling. (A second noisy pram then joined at Bridgend.) But the design defect of putting the accessible space in the end carriage is a fairly minor one to my mind Ė I can be head down in a book pretty quickly.

We then got the textbook example of hiding in the kitchen. Yep, no First Class trolley on a main peak train on a Friday night. Stunning. So I banged on the door at Bridgend, in the hope of getting a packet of nuts and buying a gin and tonic. The poor guy in there turned out to have been left on his own, was in some despair at quite how busy a train this was west of Cardiff, and had basically given up. He couldn't sell me a gin, as he'd cashed up early; so I made do with the explosive sparking water, specially shaken up by the gremlins in the bottling plant.

I'd clearly managed to incite a minor outburst of anarchy (aka queuing at the kitchen door accompanied by assorted tutting)  from the other First Class passengers from Cardiff at this point. Oops.

To the guy's credit (or at least to my disappointed face's), I was pleasantly surprised to be handed a £5 drinks voucher somewhere one side or other of Port Talbot. A nice gesture to set right a fairly rubbish journey.

So I'm really only posting about this performance issue to draw attention to the inadequate performance of the people who roster the catering staff: 1B46 1445 Paddington to Swansea is clearly understaffed, and this underlies the continual failures to provide the advertised service on what becomes a very busy train west of Cardiff. The staffing levels may be just about okay if it were a 9-car, rather than a 5+5 Ė perhaps the easiest zero-cost solution for GWR would be to swap the sets diagrammed for the 1415 and 1445.
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« Reply #1867 on: June 29, 2019, 08:16:53 pm »

Question? Anyone have ideas on what the I in IET stands for? After many journeys it definitely does not stand for Inter city. Today on the 1500 from Penzance I was in the rear unit of a 10 car and it was dirty, the carpets were stained, noticeable vibration and rattles, plus the never ending announcements were continually repeating and sounding like in an echo chamber therefore they were gibberish and incomprehensible. Have not had that one before. Really pleased when I could get off that is the best part of and IET journey. One good point, there was a trolley.
I find it difficult to believe these are modern and we are stuck with electro diesel multiple units for the next 27 years on long distance routes.
Pleasant journey on the bus home after the train trip. Friendly driver, big windows that were easy to see out, choice of tables, sensible height fairly comfortable seats and practical announcements -- Next stop XX and arriving XX.
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« Reply #1868 on: June 29, 2019, 08:50:58 pm »

I suggest that member Broadgage would say it stands for inadequate.
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« Reply #1869 on: June 29, 2019, 09:38:17 pm »

In the last 2 weeks I've made 3 return trips by IET between RDG and PAD, and all 6 trains had dirty windows and carpets. Today I went from KGX to Doncaster and back by Azuma and I almost felt I was on a completely different type of train, both of them were spotless inside and out. However not everything is rosy in LNER land - on my return journey, the Azuma on a preceding service failed at Newark causing a backlog of trains which meant I had a 30-minute late arrival back in London.
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« Reply #1870 on: June 29, 2019, 09:56:25 pm »

Sister was recently on an IET that failed, with everyone ordered off to await a following train.
There was some light hearted discussion between the driver and other GWR staff as to what exactly was wrong with the train. The consensus reached was "heatstroke"
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #1871 on: June 29, 2019, 10:55:26 pm »

Though with very warm temperatures today the service generally, specifically IETs and 387s, seemed to hold up as well as (or, some might suggest, better than) it used to with HSTs and Turbos.
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« Reply #1872 on: June 29, 2019, 11:08:54 pm »

In the last 2 weeks I've made 3 return trips by IET between RDG and PAD, and all 6 trains had dirty windows and carpets. Today I went from KGX to Doncaster and back by Azuma and I almost felt I was on a completely different type of train, both of them were spotless inside and out. However not everything is rosy in LNER land - on my return journey, the Azuma on a preceding service failed at Newark causing a backlog of trains which meant I had a 30-minute late arrival back in London.

When I as on one on Friday last week between Newark and KGX I got the impression that the seats were even harder than on "ours!"

They do of course have an onboard "shop," which if introduced by GWR might go some way towards cheering up Broadguage...
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« Reply #1873 on: June 29, 2019, 11:11:31 pm »

They are the same seats!  Nothing more to say.  Undecided
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« Reply #1874 on: June 30, 2019, 12:11:47 am »

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They are the same seats!  Nothing more to say.  Undecided

Well yes - but the thing about impressions is that they don't necessarily reflect the actuality Wink

Perhaps I just sat in an exceptionally over-used one... Smiley
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