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Author Topic: IETs into passenger service from 16 Oct 2017 and subsequent performance issues  (Read 52684 times)
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« Reply #315 on: January 13, 2018, 11:26:47 am »

I have concerns over luggage space too.  Hopefully the 802s will have more, reflecting their usage on the Cornish routes.

Is there any reason, or rumour, for thinking they will?

If so, the most obvious way to do it would be to replace (some of) those windowless seats across the aisle from a luggage rack by more racks - though they'd probably be the same design.
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« Reply #316 on: January 13, 2018, 11:36:03 am »

Thereís something in the back of my mind about more luggage space, but that might be tied up with the buffet that was being considered before being dropped.
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« Reply #317 on: January 15, 2018, 07:31:30 am »

IET's splitting at Reading now ;-


13:00 London Paddington to Bristol Temple Meads due 14:43

Facilities on the 13:00 London Paddington to Bristol Temple Meads due 14:43.

Will be formed of 5 coaches instead of 10 between Reading and Bristol Temple Meads. Will divide at Reading, front 5 coaches only for Bristol Temple Meads via Swindon.

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This train will divide at Reading today, the front 5 coaches only continue to Bristol Temple Meads.
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« Reply #318 on: January 15, 2018, 08:23:51 am »

13:00 London Paddington to Bristol Temple Meads due 14:43

Will be formed of 5 coaches instead of 10 between Reading and Bristol Temple Meads. Will divide at Reading, front 5 coaches only for Bristol Temple Meads via Swindon.

Many times something that's intended as a one-off illustrates what could be done on a regular basis. Certain evening peak services from London are rammed to Reading then quieter beyond.

Why not take train like the 17:06 and 18:06 and drop 5 at Reading, coming back on an "opposite" service and then providing a further extra 5 cars out of Paddington some 90 minutes later?

Or how would the Cheltenham Spa and Bedwyn (or Westbury or regional train via Taunton) combine to use only one London - Reading slot during the day, with portion working beyond?
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« Reply #319 on: January 17, 2018, 07:13:47 pm »

I've now lost my IET virginity. As I only travel a single stop along the Cotswold Line - and as I sit most of the day at work - I choose to stand. The vestibule areas seem much smaller than on HSTs and 180s; it felt especially cramped with just six or seven standing today. The problem is increased since passengers for stations with short platforms are concentrated in just a couple of coaches. Early days, I know, but there is a sense of disappointment.

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« Reply #320 on: January 18, 2018, 11:06:18 pm »

MY first IET today.  CDF to PAD by HST and the reverse by IET so a chance to compare. 

Going (07:59) was mostly empty even though we added the cancelled 08:00 Paignton passengers.

Returning (15:45) was full so had to stand (with two others in the (small) vestibule until Reading.  The slightest movement triggered the automatic doors so I had to keep really still.  Got a seat then.  As is said, thin and hard but not uncomfortable although I felt a bit close to the bloke sitting next to me.  Better legroom than the Mk 3 airline seating.

Ride comfort seemed fairly comparable but perhaps not quite as good as a Mk 3.  The switch from volts to diesel caused a slight thump but apart from that was seamless.  The only obvious difference was some increase in vibration felt through the floor.  From outside, the IET sounds like a Voyager taking off but inside are a lot quieter.

The train manager's announcements were mostly inaudible, which was a nuisance as we were affected by a defect in the Down Main at Didcot but no-one could hear what was being said about it.  I had to rely on Journey Check.  I mentioned it politely to the TM when he checked the tickets but he didn't improve.

As we slowed down for Cardiff, he made the first audible announcement, which was a new one on me:

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Some of the toilets are out of toilet paper.  Please check before you use the toilet.  We will replenish the supply when we get to Swansea.

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« Reply #321 on: January 19, 2018, 04:54:36 am »

Returning (15:45) was full so had to stand (with two others in the (small) vestibule until Reading.  The slightest movement triggered the automatic doors so I had to keep really still.  Got a seat then.

I think I said in my review a couple of months ago that I was surprised floor sensors had been fitted for that very reason.  One of the big faults with the HST Mk IIIís is when somebody is constantly activating the doors when stood in the vestibule, especially (as is often the case) if they are taking a mobile phone call, or chatting to a friend at what they think is an appropriate level due to the noise in the vestibule, but of course itís not for anyone sat in the saloon area!

Itís a much less intrusive problem on IETís though as the vestibule area is almost as quiet as the saloon area and the doors open almost silently compared with a huge Ďwhooshí on many of the Mk III doors.
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« Reply #322 on: January 19, 2018, 07:36:13 am »

I'm not sure that there are floor sensors.  Isn't there an overhead sensor just above the door?   I tested and it seemed to me that arm-waving had the effect of opening the door.
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« Reply #323 on: January 19, 2018, 08:37:41 am »

Other fora suggesting there is going to be some sort of IET journey time record attempt between PAD and RDG this morning, the 1045 to Swansea being the train in question. Apparently 20 mins is the target and the sets involved are 800013 and 800021.

Only what I have read elsewhere so don't shoot the messenger etc.....worth watching on RTT etc though to see what actually happens.
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« Reply #324 on: January 19, 2018, 09:05:22 am »

Be interesting to see if they hold it back a minute to ensure the HEx has time to clear airport junction then itís a 10 minute gap. The train in front being the 1035 to Paignton
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« Reply #325 on: January 19, 2018, 09:33:22 am »

the 1045 to Swansea being the train in question.

That should shake the orange juice up in the Pullman then....  Grin
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« Reply #326 on: January 19, 2018, 09:37:34 am »

Other fora suggesting there is going to be some sort of IET journey time record attempt between PAD and RDG this morning,
Does this mean it/they would be drawing more power from the wires for that burst of energy?  Or am I just being too simplistic.  Only a limited amount of juice to be shared around surely.  Don't want to turn my PC and monitor off fearing a power surge!  Cheesy Cheesy
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« Reply #327 on: January 19, 2018, 10:19:03 am »

I'm not sure that there are floor sensors.  Isn't there an overhead sensor just above the door?   I tested and it seemed to me that arm-waving had the effect of opening the door.

Could be - not button operated though which has been the norm for new fleets recently.
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« Reply #328 on: January 19, 2018, 10:48:52 am »

Be interesting to see if they hold it back a minute to ensure the HEx has time to clear airport junction then itís a 10 minute gap. The train in front being the 1035 to Paignton

Actually left 1/2 minute early if RTT is to be believed
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« Reply #329 on: January 19, 2018, 11:39:38 am »

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Unconfirmed at 21 mins. Seems this was to show what can be achieved within permitted line speeds.

It's going to feature in the next series of the Paddington "fly-on-the-wall" documentary, apparently.
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