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« Reply #765 on: August 04, 2018, 17:14:43 »

I remain un impressed by the lack of a buffet

Really? I don't recall you ever mentioning it before?  Wink
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« Reply #766 on: August 04, 2018, 20:29:06 »

Took an early 5-car from Reading to Oxford today. For trains that have been in service for a year or less I was surprised by the amount of staining on the seats. In the "old days" they used more patterned fabrics on seats, probably with good reason. Have the Japanese assumed everybody else is as clean and fastidious as they are?

On a slightly different tack I was reminded, again, how "anti-climatic" electric trains possibly just a change in frequency from the solid state drive (or chatter of contactors in the past). Coming back from Didcot on an HST (High Speed Train), you are aware when it is working for its living.
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« Reply #767 on: August 04, 2018, 21:32:42 »

Took an early 5-car from Reading to Oxford today. For trains that have been in service for a year or less I was surprised by the amount of staining on the seats. In the "old days" they used more patterned fabrics on seats, probably with good reason. Have the Japanese assumed everybody else is as clean and fastidious as they are?
Somewhere way up in this thread (or maybe another IET (Intercity Express Train) one) will show my comment on stained seats only a week or two after the first one was introduced.

As to the reliability, they are working somewhat better than the Class 345s are at present.
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« Reply #768 on: August 05, 2018, 00:49:50 »

For trains that have been in service for a year or less I was surprised by the amount of staining on the seats. In the "old days" they used more patterned fabrics on seats, probably with good reason. Have the Japanese assumed everybody else is as clean and fastidious as they are?

Here are the new seat covers being fitted which should be much more stain resistant.  No change regarding levels of padding (or to the stained carpets), but the pattern does liven up the interior a bit.

 
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« Reply #769 on: August 05, 2018, 10:36:41 »

For trains that have been in service for a year or less I was surprised by the amount of staining on the seats. In the "old days" they used more patterned fabrics on seats, probably with good reason. Have the Japanese assumed everybody else is as clean and fastidious as they are?

Here are the new seat covers being fitted which should be much more stain resistant.  No change regarding levels of padding (or to the stained carpets), but the pattern does liven up the interior a bit.

 

Looks like they've picked up a few stains already  Grin
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« Reply #770 on: August 05, 2018, 10:50:58 »

There had obviously been some kind of party on that particular table of four during the journey as there was popcorn everywhere!
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« Reply #771 on: August 05, 2018, 10:55:25 »


Looks like they've picked up a few stains already  Grin


Crumbs.................! Grin
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« Reply #772 on: August 05, 2018, 12:06:03 »


Looks like they've picked up a few stains already  Grin


Crumbs.................! Grin

I hope the cleaners can get those red circle stains out!  Grin
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« Reply #773 on: August 05, 2018, 12:55:33 »

People who draw red circles on train seats should be prosecuted Smiley
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU (Diesel Multiple Unit) is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #774 on: August 07, 2018, 06:48:48 »

IET (Intercity Express Train) failures look worse than usual today with about 20 short formations, mainly 5 car instead of 10 car, but also several 5 car instead of 9 car.
A couple of 8 car versus 10 car, which I presume is an HST (High Speed Train) instead of an IET.

They did a little better yesterday with only about a dozen short formations.

Does anyone know if Hitachi are paying for this ? Or is there some wiggle room whereby it can be ruled to be a "customer problem" and not the suppliers fault.
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU (Diesel Multiple Unit) is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #775 on: August 07, 2018, 08:35:42 »

I’m not sure how it works until the point at which full fleet acceptance and training has been completed.  I suspect there would be a little wriggle room until that point, but there should be a least some sort of penalty for the current poor availability.

I remain confident that a potentially reliable train is lurking underneath the poor availability of recent days but it’s disappointing (and unexpected by myself) that they are still not be on top of basic things like the reservation system yet.

With problems on the Scottish EMUs (Electric Multiple Unit) they built, Hitachi’s good reputation is under threat unless they get on top of the outstanding issues soon.
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« Reply #776 on: August 07, 2018, 10:23:07 »

With problems on the Scottish EMUs (Electric Multiple Unit) they built, Hitachi’s good reputation is under threat unless they get on top of the outstanding issues soon.
And being a Japanese company they will take that very seriously.
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« Reply #777 on: August 07, 2018, 10:26:29 »

A couple of 8 car versus 10 car, which I presume is an HST (High Speed Train) instead of an IET (Intercity Express Train).
Good that GWR (Great Western Railway) appear to have a spare HST or two to substitute a non available IET.
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« Reply #778 on: August 07, 2018, 11:02:17 »

I don’t understand why they run an off peak Cheltenham service with a 9 car and operate a 5 car on services between Swansea and London that will run into peak? I was on the 17:42 out of Paddington to Cheltenham and this time of year the 5 coaches was enough.
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« Reply #779 on: August 07, 2018, 11:10:12 »

I don’t understand why they run an off peak Cheltenham service with a 9 car and operate a 5 car on services between Swansea and London that will run into peak? I was on the 17:42 out of Paddington to Cheltenham and this time of year the 5 coaches was enough.
All about diagrams and depots.
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