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Author Topic: IETs into passenger service from 16 Oct 2017 and subsequent performance issues  (Read 544167 times)
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« Reply #1005 on: September 19, 2018, 10:40:06 »

There's a free talk in Oxford in November: 'INTRODUCING THE HITACHI CLASS 800 TRAINS INTO SERVICE ON GREAT WESTERN'
Details at https://communities.theiet.org/communities/events/item/259/77/21515

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« Reply #1006 on: September 19, 2018, 11:00:57 »

There's a free talk in Oxford in November: 'INTRODUCING THE HITACHI CLASS 800 TRAINS INTO SERVICE ON GREAT WESTERN'

Many thanks.

6th November.   I've added a diary thread at http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=20409.0 so it will come up for people as they look at the forum calendar.
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« Reply #1007 on: September 19, 2018, 11:36:32 »

Counting IET (Intercity Express Train)'s again today, on my way into PAD» (Paddington (London) - next trains) past North Pole at around 1015.

I counted 19 (there may have been a few more hidden away) at various points around the site.
That must be at least as many parked up (or being serviced) as are actually out working.
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« Reply #1008 on: September 19, 2018, 12:04:21 »

Counting IET (Intercity Express Train)'s again today, on my way into PAD» (Paddington (London) - next trains) past North Pole at around 1015.

I counted 19 (there may have been a few more hidden away) at various points around the site.
That must be at least as many parked up (or being serviced) as are actually out working.

Yet there's no short formations on journeycheck today.  Just shows how many trains have been ordered I suppose!
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« Reply #1009 on: September 19, 2018, 12:16:35 »

Yet there's no short formations on journeycheck today.  Just shows how many trains have been ordered I suppose!
Could also mean we see a sudden rapid acceleration of IETs (Intercity Express Train) replacing HSTs (High Speed Train) over the coming weeks/months. I think the original plan was to have the entire fleet in place ready for the Jan 19 TT change which we know now won't take place, well certainly not the complete recast timetables anyway.
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« Reply #1010 on: September 19, 2018, 12:19:43 »

Counting IET (Intercity Express Train)'s again today, on my way into PAD» (Paddington (London) - next trains) past North Pole at around 1015.

I counted 19 (there may have been a few more hidden away) at various points around the site.
That must be at least as many parked up (or being serviced) as are actually out working.

Yet there's no short formations on journeycheck today.  Just shows how many trains have been ordered I suppose!

Not what you mean, I know, but ...

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09:25 St James' Park to Cardiff Central due 12:19
Facilities on the 09:25 St James' Park to Cardiff Central due 12:19.
This is due to a fault on this train.
Will be formed of 1 coach instead of 2.

How many HST (High Speed Train) diagrams are still running?   More, or less than the 19?   Are any / many / most of the 19 IETs being prepared for use and not yet in service?

I've been told that although the Bedwyn siding is in services for 5 car trains now, there aren't going to be enough IETs to run the Paddington service until around Christmas (new year?) and so three Turbos that we would love to see in Bristol to help with - well - incidents like the above short form today - can't be cascaded for a few more months.
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« Reply #1011 on: September 19, 2018, 20:40:35 »

Not enough drivers trained to drive them yet either.  Training is very much ongoing though.
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« Reply #1012 on: September 20, 2018, 13:40:10 »

Counting IET (Intercity Express Train)'s again today, on my way into PAD» (Paddington (London) - next trains) past North Pole at around 1015.

I counted 19 (there may have been a few more hidden away) at various points around the site.
That must be at least as many parked up (or being serviced) as are actually out working.

Also went to Padd on 19/0 and saw all teh IETS in North Pole. However more puzzling was seeing  IETS under the wires on diesel

Around 10:30 at Taplow 2*5 on Up Main (possibly 1L36 0831 Cheltenham Spa to London Paddington), 1*9 on Down Main (possibly 1B25 1015 London Paddington to Swansea) and the 16:41 Slough Pad possibly 1P34 1601 Oxford to London Paddington on diesel.  The latter is booked a Turbo.

Also a unit running into the depot around 11:10.  Real Time trains gives 5A10.

I travelled to Slough on the 1W33 16:21 Padd - Great Malvern 5 car on electric.

There were also a number of 345s in OOC (Old Oak Common (depot)).

I understand the use of diesel under the wires is a fault. It seems odd that the fault is that way round you would have thought it would be easier to put the Pan up and collect juice rather starting up several diesel engines.
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« Reply #1013 on: September 20, 2018, 16:48:39 »

No 2+5 have been to Cheltenham in passenger service yet.
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« Reply #1014 on: September 20, 2018, 17:51:20 »

Counting IET (Intercity Express Train)'s again today, on my way into PAD» (Paddington (London) - next trains) past North Pole at around 1015.

I counted 19 (there may have been a few more hidden away) at various points around the site.
That must be at least as many parked up (or being serviced) as are actually out working.

Also went to Padd on 19/0 and saw all teh IETS in North Pole. However more puzzling was seeing  IETS under the wires on diesel



I understand the use of diesel under the wires is a fault. It seems odd that the fault is that way round you would have thought it would be easier to put the Pan up and collect juice rather starting up several diesel engines.

It might not be a fault, there are still Drivers (not many) who are only signed off to drive diesel, the units may have had a repair done at Stoke Gifford and they would have to remain diesel only until tested at North Pole, or in traffic with a technician on board.  Once the juice gets switched on at Stoke Gifford it will eliminate that problem.
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« Reply #1015 on: September 21, 2018, 09:53:22 »

No 2+5 have been to Cheltenham in passenger service yet.

!9/9 From Realtime trains

Possibly 1A10 0900 Bristol Temple Meads to London Paddington running 9L at Taplow. 09:32 v 09:23
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« Reply #1016 on: September 25, 2018, 11:31:41 »

Are we over the availability problems finally?  Seems to be several days where there have been hardly any 5 vice 10 car services.
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« Reply #1017 on: September 25, 2018, 12:21:48 »

Are we over the availability problems finally?  Seems to be several days where there have been hardly any 5 vice 10 car services.

There have been some but GWR (Great Western Railway) haven't been posting on Journey Check despite a promise they would do a while ago
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« Reply #1018 on: September 25, 2018, 12:42:28 »

Are we over the availability problems finally?  Seems to be several days where there have been hardly any 5 vice 10 car services.

There have been some but GWR (Great Western Railway) haven't been posting on Journey Check despite a promise they would a while ago

I still smell a rat. Are GWR trying to "tiptoe away" from the original promises about full length trains?
All very voyager like.
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU (Diesel Multiple Unit) is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #1019 on: September 25, 2018, 13:11:14 »

Are we over the availability problems finally?  Seems to be several days where there have been hardly any 5 vice 10 car services.

There have been some but GWR (Great Western Railway) haven't been posting on Journey Check despite a promise they would do a while ago

Yes, there are a couple today on further investigation:  10:29 SWA» (Swansea - next trains)-PAD» (Paddington (London) - next trains) (fuel issues) and 10:30 PAD-WSM and return 13:01 WSM-PAD.  As you say though, they should be on journeycheck as definitely booked to be 10-cars but aren't.

Still, I suppose that's way better than recent weeks.
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