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Author Topic: IETs into passenger service from 16 Oct 2017 and subsequent performance issues  (Read 543886 times)
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« Reply #1980 on: July 31, 2019, 16:22:17 »


Not called GU’s on other classes, as it not all in a combined ‘unit’ that is removed and fitted as one entity.


Is that two STOP button things on the lower front? Or is it a press both to start, and one other to stop?  Not the least bit technikul but bus big buttons at the back wot drivers are never allowed to touch (Engineers only) have 2 BIG buttons to play with. One start, one stop.  In the real world drivers are often asked to do things with those buttons, even when 'not qualified' and against Union guidance..........

Those red bits are the kind of plastic covers used to protect round things that have to be connected up when the GU is fitted. They might be pipes for something, but I suspect they are multipole electrical connectors. Incidentally, there are two on the other side.
Oh, my excitement now killed.  The thought of pressing big buttons is always a draw.  Not so with the multiple connector thingy  Sad Sad
Thank you for the information; very interesting
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« Reply #1981 on: July 31, 2019, 21:36:21 »


Not called GU’s on other classes, as it not all in a combined ‘unit’ that is removed and fitted as one entity.


Is that two STOP button things on the lower front? Or is it a press both to start, and one other to stop?  Not the least bit technikul but bus big buttons at the back wot drivers are never allowed to touch (Engineers only) have 2 BIG buttons to play with. One start, one stop.  In the real world drivers are often asked to do things with those buttons, even when 'not qualified' and against Union guidance..........

Those red bits are the kind of plastic covers used to protect round things that have to be connected up when the GU is fitted. They might be pipes for something, but I suspect they are multipole electrical connectors. Incidentally, there are two on the other side.
Oh, my excitement now killed.  The thought of pressing big buttons is always a draw.  Not so with the multiple connector thingy  Sad Sad
Thank you for the information; very interesting

As correctly identified, not buttons, but blanks.  Incorrectly speculated as electrical connectors.  They are quick release couplings for hydraulic oil and coolant.
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« Reply #1982 on: August 01, 2019, 08:37:59 »

Even more disappointed now.......  Sad
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« Reply #1983 on: August 06, 2019, 21:15:55 »

From the Oxford Mail - the effect of running a short form on passengers.   Oxford Mail may be being a bit over-dramatic? Choice to wait for a local to Didcot and change ...

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A TRAIN company has apologised to passengers from Oxford who were forced to ride in the toilet and the floor because of overcrowding.

The train in question was the Saturday 3.55pm service from Oxford to London Paddington, and carriages were so loaded with people that some had no choice but to travel in the toilet or on the carriage floor.

The picture above was taken in the First Class carriage.

The Mail contacted Great Western Railways' press office for comment.

James Davis, the company's media manager, explained: "This train was formed of five carriages rather than nine on Sunday, due to the availability of trains - other trains requiring maintenance - which means that we had to operate this service with five carriages; rather than nine or ten.
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« Reply #1984 on: August 06, 2019, 21:56:41 »

Short formed train 17.07 to Paddington - Frome again. Absolutely rammed and like last weeks a late change in train/platform so I don't know if there was a fault.

Probably didn't help people's tempers that there was no announcement on the train that didn't depart.
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« Reply #1985 on: August 06, 2019, 21:59:25 »

Short formed train 17.07 to Paddington - Frome again. Absolutely rammed and like last weeks a late change in train/platform so I don't know if there was a fault.

Probably didn't help people's tempers that there was no announcement on the train that didn't depart.

Perhaps with the change of train the Train Manager wasn't there to announce anything
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« Reply #1986 on: August 16, 2019, 09:43:39 »

Following a recent improvement, there are several short formed 5 vice 9/10 formations today.
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« Reply #1987 on: August 16, 2019, 14:20:41 »

A very minor point but I noticed yesterday that the plate above the sinks in the toilets which has the wording "water, soap etc" is cracking where the words are and in some cases has started to break off. I'm sure Hitachi will be on the hook to replace these, but it's surprising to see so soon in the unit's lives.

Other than that, both journeys were perfectly acceptable. On the way up I asked if there was any hot food and was told it's not available yet.  (On the way back my needs were perfectly met by a small bottle of wine.)  The mid-evening return journey was standing room only as far as Reading, although whether there was space in the front 5 who knows - I didn't have time to check before departure.  But certainly the additional seating (over HSTs (High Speed Train)) was welcome.
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« Reply #1988 on: August 20, 2019, 07:30:28 »

800002 has made its bow into service this week.  Working the following trains today, in case anyone (BobM?) fancies catching up with it;

1C03   Padton   07:00   BrstlTM   08:48         
1A11   BrstlTM   09:30   Padton   11:12         
1C12   Padton   11:30   BrstlTM   13:16         
1A20   BrstlTM   14:00   Padton   15:38         
1B55   Padton   16:15   Swansea   19:23
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« Reply #1989 on: August 20, 2019, 09:45:22 »

Seems astonishing but today is the first anniversary of IET (Intercity Express Train) commercial operation west of the Tamar. A lot of things have happened since then.
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« Reply #1990 on: September 04, 2019, 09:23:19 »

There seem to be 3 formations out today which are 5 vice 9/10
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« Reply #1991 on: September 04, 2019, 14:31:10 »

Seems astonishing but today is the first anniversary of IET (Intercity Express Train) commercial operation west of the Tamar. A lot of things have happened since then.

We have indeed all passed a lot of water under the bridge.
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« Reply #1992 on: September 04, 2019, 21:47:07 »

We have indeed all passed a lot of water under the bridge.

Does that mean we're p****d off ??
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« Reply #1993 on: September 16, 2019, 13:25:03 »

This little snippet appeared on the WNXX (Stored Unserviceable, Mainline Locos HQ All Classes) Forum.  You couldn't make it up.......

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This relates to the use of the 5-cars in Cornwall. One morning I tried to get on the CRE» (Crewe - next trains) at Penzance. Other than the rear standard class, the other 4 cars were completely wedged reservation wise, including first class. All seats were subject of paper reservations. Needless to say I didn't bother getting on it. A couple of days later a got on the CRE in first class, again it was a 5 car. There were no reservations on the train totally, either through the electronic system or paper based. Staff tell everyone that the electronic system would not work until the second 5 car is added at Plymouth. This caused chaos as passengers were told that it was a 'sit anywhere' policy, even in first class. People who had seat reservations in first class who got on closer to Devon could not have a seat as there were no seats available for them. At Plymouth I got off so didn't see if the planned electronic reservations worked with the other 5-car attached.

My question is does the use of a single 5-car need the use of a second one to input the electronic seat reservation system?

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The TMS won't load the reservations until the train is formed of all the carriages that it expects - if the ressies are for a 9 or 10 car they won't load to a 5 car. 10 car reservations will work on a 9 car and vice versa, but not a 5 car when the system expects to display to 10 carriages. There is also the ongoing issue of the TMS accepting the headcode, giving the correct stopping pattern etc but coming up with 'SRS Non-data' for the reservations. Seems the system needs excellent mobile signal strength to download the SRS details - at Paddington for example there have been occasions where the system refuses to load from the east end cab (i.e. the cab on the blocks under the train shed) but will load from the west end cab. I'm told similar has happened at PZ with the west end cab under the roof refusing to load.
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« Reply #1994 on: September 16, 2019, 13:58:36 »

What a fiasco!
5 car units very overcrowded in Cornwall, and as was predicted,
No reservations on a single 5 car set, if it might later be attached to another 5 cars.
Even with a full length train, reservations very unreliable. I guess that no one could have foreseen reduced signal strength under a roof.

And whose crystal ball forecast overcrowding on the new shorter trains ? Just like the wretched voyagers.

First class appears to be de facto declassified on single 5 car units.

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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU (Diesel Multiple Unit) is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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