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Author Topic: IETs into passenger service from 16 Oct 2017 and subsequent performance issues  (Read 543883 times)
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« Reply #2175 on: November 28, 2019, 18:11:48 »

First Class carriage doors on the 16.00 9 car IET (Intercity Express Train) from PNZ to PAD» (Paddington (London) - next trains) this afternoon had large white ‘1’ on them below the window. Looked a bit of a rush job and can’t recall seeing this before...?
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« Reply #2176 on: November 28, 2019, 19:31:22 »


In the (good) old days we just used to paint black triangles etc on the ends of units.

There'll always be a real world beyond the virtual one of software.

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Even simpler in this modern age, the TMS has a sticker on it, to indicate if it has the latest software.  Easily visible by the Driver.
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« Reply #2177 on: November 28, 2019, 20:01:11 »

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First Class carriage doors on the 16.00 9 car IET (Intercity Express Train) from PNZ to PAD» (Paddington (London) - next trains) this afternoon had large white ‘1’ on them below the window. Looked a bit of a rush job and can’t recall seeing this before...?

Could this be to specially help those passengers who came down from London to Plymouth on the 0733 Spl from Paddington ( and who are not being put up in Plymouth) locate their 'luxury' (?) seats for their return journey by ordinary service.
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« Reply #2178 on: December 04, 2019, 18:30:45 »

An example of the "flexibility" of the 2 x 5 units???

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17:03 London Paddington to Penzance due 22:28 is being delayed at Newbury Racecourse.
This is due to a fault on this train.
Will be formed of 5 coaches instead of 10 from Newbury Racecourse.
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« Reply #2179 on: December 05, 2019, 10:07:10 »

An example of the "flexibility" of the 2 x 5 units???

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17:03 London Paddington to Penzance due 22:28 is being delayed at Newbury Racecourse.
This is due to a fault on this train.
Will be formed of 5 coaches instead of 10 from Newbury Racecourse.

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The 17:03 Paddington to Penzance service (1C90) had software issues this evening (04/12/2019). Initially the doors wouldn't release on the rear unit (train formed of 2x 5-car 802 units 802014 and 802016) at Reading. After departing Reading, the train came to a stand on the approach to Southcote Junction with brake issues. The train made it to Newbury Racecourse where the units were split and 1C90 continued with the front unit (802014) only, running approximately 75 minutes late. 802016 later went ECS (Empty Coaching Stock) to North Pole.
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« Reply #2180 on: December 05, 2019, 10:13:07 »

An example of the "flexibility" of the 2 x 5 units???

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17:03 London Paddington to Penzance due 22:28 is being delayed at Newbury Racecourse.
This is due to a fault on this train.
Will be formed of 5 coaches instead of 10 from Newbury Racecourse.

Thank goodness it was the 17:03 as that tends to be relatively empty after Newbury
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« Reply #2181 on: December 05, 2019, 10:29:21 »

There certainly must be some services more suitable for 5 cars than 9. My son came back from Bath yesterday on the (I think he said) 1156, which I presume must have been an IET (Intercity Express Train) as it had come from London. He was the only one in the carriage! Although almost every seat was showing as reserved...
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« Reply #2182 on: December 05, 2019, 11:12:12 »

I came home yesterday on the 1833 Paddington to Exeter St Davids service. The internal information displays said we were going to Newquay, something denied by the TM(resolve) after every station stop. Selective door opening was playing up, with not all the doors selected . Fortunately, the TM realised this, so the passengers in the wrong bits at Newbury were able to run from Carriages A, B, and C, to D, rather than being taken on as hostages.
Otherwise, it was a good trip.
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« Reply #2183 on: December 13, 2019, 06:29:34 »

Some short forms today ...
08:00 London Paddington to Bristol Temple Meads due 09:44
08:21 London Paddington to Hereford due 11:42
08:30 London Paddington to Bristol Temple Meads due 10:13
08:45 London Paddington to Swansea due 11:44
09:36 London Paddington to Cheltenham Spa due 11:52
10:33 London Paddington to Paignton due 13:51
12:03 London Paddington to Penzance due 17:09
Looks like 7 at least IETs (Intercity Express Train) with less carriages than planned
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« Reply #2184 on: December 13, 2019, 07:38:52 »

Some short forms today ...
08:00 London Paddington to Bristol Temple Meads due 09:44
08:21 London Paddington to Hereford due 11:42
08:30 London Paddington to Bristol Temple Meads due 10:13
08:45 London Paddington to Swansea due 11:44
09:36 London Paddington to Cheltenham Spa due 11:52
10:33 London Paddington to Paignton due 13:51
12:03 London Paddington to Penzance due 17:09
Looks like 7 at least IETs (Intercity Express Train) with less carriages than planned
Lots in the opposite direction as well heading towards London probably as a result of the fatality yesterday.
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« Reply #2185 on: December 13, 2019, 08:55:48 »

There were 4 consecutive trains from Swansea formed 5 vice 9/10
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« Reply #2186 on: December 13, 2019, 10:31:39 »

Some diagrams now corrected, 12:03 PAD» (Paddington (London) - next trains)-PNZ for example, and the 09:45 PAD-SWA» (Swansea - next trains) was a 9-car vice 10-car.  Quite a few remain though.
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« Reply #2187 on: December 13, 2019, 11:09:53 »

There were 4 consecutive trains from Swansea formed 5 vice 9/10

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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU (Diesel Multiple Unit) is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #2188 on: December 13, 2019, 13:35:10 »

Some diagrams now corrected, 12:03 PAD» (Paddington (London) - next trains)-PNZ for example, and the 09:45 PAD-SWA» (Swansea - next trains) was a 9-car vice 10-car.  Quite a few remain though.
Yes we were on the UP service which formed the 1203 and were relieved when it showed up as a 9 car. JC had it down as 5 vice 9 but Tiger showed it being 9 car, so I know who to believe in future  Smiley No catering though so had a coffee in the lounge before continuing the next part of our journey. Train was busy but still a pleasant journey.
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« Reply #2189 on: December 13, 2019, 13:39:57 »

JC had it down as 5 vice 9 but Tiger showed it being 9 car, so I know who to believe in future  Smiley

Tiger is much more accurate, only really likely to be wrong when a problem has occurred en-route.  JourneyCheck is, at best, a very rough guide.
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