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« on: November 29, 2017, 08:05:37 »

Grayling:   New routes for old, new routes for old.
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« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2017, 08:11:52 »

I see Bristol to Portishead tops the list at 2.43
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« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2017, 08:21:39 »

 
 https://www.railnews.co.uk/news/2017/11/28-bold-plan-unveiled-to-expand.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

 Yet yesterday I read 55bn Euro's for our 'Brexit Divorce'.

 Hate to sound negative (yet again), but unless some 'private finance' is available, where's the money come from ?
 

 
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« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2017, 08:22:01 »

Shouldn't there be a question mark after the title of this thread?
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« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2017, 09:10:33 »

Yet yesterday I read 55bn Euro's for our 'Brexit Divorce'.

 Hate to sound negative (yet again), but unless some 'private finance' is available, where's the money come from ?

If we remain in the EU» (European Union - about), that £50billion would be what we would still pay as *part* of our contribution, plus any more that would be agreed while we remain. So getting out will still be cheaper than staying in, don't forget. That money is spent whichever happens
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« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2017, 09:14:27 »


 https://www.railnews.co.uk/news/2017/11/28-bold-plan-unveiled-to-expand.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

 Yet yesterday I read 55bn Euro's for our 'Brexit Divorce'.

 Hate to sound negative (yet again), but unless some 'private finance' is available, where's the money come from ?
 

It was never going to come from central government. In the unlikely event that a British government faced up to the need to increase taxation across the board, they'd be looking to redress the calamitous under-funding of health, education and a dozen other things. They'd never get as far as considering infrastructure.

When I heard about this 'vision' earlier today, I thought 'Surely they can't just be re-re-re-announcing East-West Rail, Portishead and so on..?

Sometimes I think I'm a cynic, and other times I think it takes quite a lot of optimism to bother getting out of bed. Pah!
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« Reply #6 on: November 29, 2017, 09:17:09 »

So getting out will still be cheaper than staying in, don't forget.

In the round, I very strongly doubt that.
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« Reply #7 on: November 29, 2017, 19:51:22 »


 So getting out will still be cheaper than staying in, don't forget. That money is spent whichever happens

The second half of the sentence is true: the 55bn or whatever sum is finally agreed upon will be what the UK (United Kingdom) already owes, and is money spent whether in or out.

However, I'm not sure that the first part of the sentence holds. Time will tell. 
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« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2017, 14:31:03 »

It'll be an unknown unfortunately - but yu can bet that if we stay in, we would agree budgets worth more than currently, so we would spend further money if we stay in.
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« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2017, 14:47:03 »

It'll be an unknown unfortunately

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