|
old original
|
 |
« on: October 17, 2017, 06:58:11 » |
|
Just by accident, waiting for the 0706 Pad -Pnz and see the 0700 to Bristol is a new one....have to give it a go..
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
8 Billion people on a wet rock - of course we're not happy
|
|
|
|
grahame
|
|
« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2017, 14:33:48 » |
|
I came across my first one of Friday (no special trip - just a journey to make) ... report at https://www.facebook.com/graham.ellis.5055/posts/10155849399807094Public post - which I think means it can be read even if you're not logged in to Facebook? |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
Coffee Shop Admin, Acting Chair of Melksham Rail User Group, Option 24/7 Melksham Rep
|
|
|
|
bobm
|
|
« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2017, 17:59:16 » |
|
Took my second trip last week after initially travelling on day one. Seems some of the on board issues have been resolved - notably the seat reservation system. Although it will take time for passengers to get used to looking above the seats rather for paper slips on the seat backs.   The trains continue to lose time at stations. On a trip to London in the late morning we sat at Reading for a full three minutes despite the train having the road out of the platform. The automated announcements seem to be working now but the train manager appears to have to over-ride them to announce short platforms at both Bath Spa and Didcot Parkway. The bike spaces, mentioned by Graham above, can also contribute to the delay. With the storage spaces now being in the train itself a cyclist getting off usually has to wait until the other passengers have passed them before getting their machine out of the space. By that time the gap in people disembarking has led to people starting to board, only to meet the cyclist who has now freed their bike. It is even worse if one of those alighting has a cycle too! Still issues with the external displays. When I arrived at London Paddington the screens were still showing the next stop as Bath Spa. The switch from diesel to electric at Maidenhead was still hard to detect. I happened to see the pantograph going up as the sun cast a shadow of it on the ground but couldn't tell when the method of propulsion changed. |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
grahame
|
|
« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2017, 18:22:20 » |
|
By that time the gap in people disembarking has led to people starting to board, only to meet the cyclist who has now freed their bike.
<pedant> Hmmm ... the people who start to join are, of course, contravening the railway bylaws in their joining before the cyclist has left. No person shall enter through any train door until any person leaving by that door has passed through. </pedant> https://www.crosscountrytrains.co.uk/media/1058/railway-byelaws.pdf |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
Coffee Shop Admin, Acting Chair of Melksham Rail User Group, Option 24/7 Melksham Rep
|
|
|
|
bobm
|
|
« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2017, 18:24:44 » |
|
Hmmm ... the people who start to join are, of course, contravening the railway bylaws in their joining before the cyclist has left. No person shall enter through any train door until any person leaving by that door has passed through. Totally agree - but if they cannot see them preparing to get off before they board it is natural to assume everyone wanting to alight has done so. |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
devonexpress
|
|
« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2017, 23:46:17 » |
|
Hmmm ... the people who start to join are, of course, contravening the railway bylaws in their joining before the cyclist has left. No person shall enter through any train door until any person leaving by that door has passed through. Totally agree - but if they cannot see them preparing to get off before they board it is natural to assume everyone wanting to alight has done so. I've done it so many times as Exeter St Davids, though everyone had got off, so jumped on-board, only to find someone struggling to balance a overly heavy suitcase down from the racks and trying to get off the train. The you get people follow behind you and it all becomes very awkward. |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
ChrisB
|
|
« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2017, 09:04:16 » |
|
Many people don't arise from their seat to get off until the train has stopped....
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
Tim
|
|
« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2017, 09:20:10 » |
|
The trains continue to lose time at stations.
Might the problem with time keeping be that these trains are not supposed to be running as far west as Penzance. Such routes with inclines and long stretches which will never be wired, are supposed to be run by the yet to be introduced class 802s which have more power (940 HP versus 750 per engine). |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
grahame
|
|
« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2017, 09:52:11 » |
|
Many people don't arise from their seat to get off until the train has stopped....
They're told to stay seated on buses and planes until they come to a halt, so you can't blame 'em ... |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
Coffee Shop Admin, Acting Chair of Melksham Rail User Group, Option 24/7 Melksham Rep
|
|
|
|
chrisr_75
|
|
« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2017, 11:11:13 » |
|
Many people don't arise from their seat to get off until the train has stopped....
They're told to stay seated on buses and planes until they come to a halt, so you can't blame 'em ... It's also safer to stay seated on a train. In the rare event of a low speed impact on a train, most of the injuries occur to standees. |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
ChrisB
|
|
« Reply #10 on: November 08, 2017, 11:15:04 » |
|
Agreed, but in which case, boarding pax need educating to allow time for them to get out of seats, collect any possessions and exit the train....
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
lordgoata
|
|
« Reply #11 on: November 08, 2017, 12:40:38 » |
|
Agreed, but in which case, boarding pax need educating to allow time for them to get out of seats, collect any possessions and exit the train....
Good luck with implementing that at Maidenhead in the mornings!  |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
TonyK
Global Moderator
Hero Member
Posts: 6438
The artist formerly known as Four Track, Now!
|
|
« Reply #12 on: November 08, 2017, 14:58:14 » |
|
The bike spaces, mentioned by Graham above, can also contribute to the delay. With the storage spaces now being in the train itself a cyclist getting off usually has to wait until the other passengers have passed them before getting their machine out of the space. By that time the gap in people disembarking has led to people starting to board, only to meet the cyclist who has now freed their bike. It is even worse if one of those alighting has a cycle too!
[further pedant] It would be worse again if one of those boarding had a cycle too! [/further pedant] They're told to stay seated on buses and planes until they come to a halt, so you can't blame 'em ...
True, but in the case of planes, there is often a lengthy wait for steps. In buses, I don't mind edging towards the front before we arrive at the stop, but not if I'm upstairs. |
|
|
|
« Last Edit: November 08, 2017, 15:03:17 by Four Track, Now! »
|
Logged
|
Now, please!
|
|
|
|
Phantom
|
|
« Reply #13 on: November 15, 2017, 13:46:10 » |
|
Many people don't arise from their seat to get off until the train has stopped....
They're told to stay seated on buses and planes until they come to a halt, so you can't blame 'em ... I guess with planes people aren't actually trying to board as you are getting off? With a bus at least a driver can signal to people getting on to wait for everyone to get off first |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
Sixty3Closure
|
|
« Reply #14 on: November 15, 2017, 23:04:49 » |
|
Agreed, but in which case, boarding pax need educating to allow time for them to get out of seats, collect any possessions and exit the train....
Good luck with implementing that at Maidenhead in the mornings! I'd hope that in the near future with less pressure on space and more chance of getting a seat passengers boarding at Maidenhead might relax a bit. I can understand people being a bit 'keen' when there's only a handful of seats in each carriage left and a crowded platform. |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
