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Author Topic: GWR IET diagrams.  (Read 21865 times)
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« Reply #105 on: January 05, 2018, 10:07:10 pm »

You can tell from the length on the station CIS (via http://iris2.rail.co.uk/tiger/index.html), but only until it leaves there. Of course you can also look at somewhere later on its route, but once it's terminated that won't work either. And it wouldn't distinguish a 9-car IET from a 2+9 HST (if they was ever relevant).

Thanks stuving - new to me!

I should have said you need to pick the right display type - for example the Staff View.
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« Reply #106 on: January 05, 2018, 11:09:09 pm »

Thanks again stuving - I had already had a play. I find the "mobile view" easiest to get on with, even on a proper computer.
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« Reply #107 on: June 17, 2018, 11:12:13 am »

I heard 800/3 to Cheltenham start tomorrow? Is this true or?
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« Reply #108 on: June 17, 2018, 04:27:51 pm »

I heard 800/3 to Cheltenham start tomorrow? Is this true or?

Should be the case for the following trains (worked with two diagrams):

1G11, 07:36 PAD-CNM
1G29, 11:36 PAD-CNM
1G38, 13:36 PAD-CNM
1G60, 17:42 PAD-CNM

1L50, 10:36 CNM-PAD
1L67, 14:36 CNM-PAD
1L80, 16:20 CNM-PAD
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« Reply #109 on: June 17, 2018, 05:48:06 pm »

I heard 800/3 to Cheltenham start tomorrow? Is this true or?

Should be the case for the following trains (worked with two diagrams):

1G11, 07:36 PAD-CNM
1G29, 11:36 PAD-CNM
1G38, 13:36 PAD-CNM
1G60, 17:42 PAD-CNM

1L50, 10:36 CNM-PAD
1L67, 14:36 CNM-PAD
1L80, 16:20 CNM-PAD

Thank you. Bit tzoo early I understand but would it be likely they operate the route the next upcoming weekends?
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« Reply #110 on: June 17, 2018, 05:59:53 pm »

Don't know yet, but will try to remember to check.  Though recently on weekends it appears getting any train to go to Cheltenham is asking a bit much of GWR!
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« Reply #111 on: June 18, 2018, 09:03:01 am »

9 coach IET '800305' on 1G11 Paddington to Cheltenham service today.

I also caught one of the 'shadow' services this morning, 5 car IET, on 1Z40 0718 Paddington to Oxford Down Carriage Sdg. Better than the normal 2 car 165 and I got off before Oxford Down Carriage Sdg. Smiley

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« Reply #112 on: June 18, 2018, 09:28:33 am »

9 coach IET '800305' on 1G11 Paddington to Cheltenham service today.

800304 allocated to the other diagram, starting off with the 11:36 PAD-CNM.
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« Reply #113 on: June 18, 2018, 09:47:35 am »

Here is 800305 having just passed Moredon Bridge in North Swindon on the 07:36 London Paddington to Cheltenham service this morning.

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« Reply #114 on: June 18, 2018, 09:56:53 am »

Great to see the 9 car IETs finally in service. They are definitely needed.
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« Reply #115 on: June 18, 2018, 10:38:50 am »

Absolutely, and they do look pretty impressive.  Thirty-five sets in total, if you include the 802s.
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« Reply #116 on: June 18, 2018, 11:55:37 am »

Great to see the 9 car IETs finally in service. They are definitely needed.

Yes, but, I would hope that in the near term that 9 car sets are used instead of what should have been a 5+5 but would actually have been a single 5 car.
Going on the shambles so far, I fear that each newly delivered 9 car unit will result in the removal of an HST and a continuation of single 5 car units on services that should be full length.
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« Reply #117 on: June 18, 2018, 12:00:34 pm »

As I suspected, IET units are being failed far more often for faults that other stock might be continued in operation with. An example from Friday evening....a 5car IET removed from service at Swindon owing to one of the diesel engines failing....doesn't that leave at least two others under a 5car? But as these are maintained by Hitachi, out of service it came at ran ECS to the Hitachi depot. Whether another was released by Hitachi - ? - but that service went no further.
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« Reply #118 on: June 18, 2018, 12:28:09 pm »

As I suspected, IET units are being failed far more often for faults that other stock might be continued in operation with. An example from Friday evening....a 5car IET removed from service at Swindon owing to one of the diesel engines failing....doesn't that leave at least two others under a 5car? But as these are maintained by Hitachi, out of service it came at ran ECS to the Hitachi depot. Whether another was released by Hitachi - ? - but that service went no further.

I thought that the 5 car units had 3 engines the output of which was restricted in normal operation, but that would run at full power if one engine failed.
Therefore seems very odd to withdraw from service due to an engine out.
One of the alleged advantages of DMUs is the ability to proceed under reduced power when one engine fails.
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« Reply #119 on: June 18, 2018, 01:01:47 pm »

It would indeed be unusual to withdraw one from service because one of the engines was out.  I have seen several running in service with one engine out before, and as Broadgage says power output increases in the remaining engines.  Perhaps there was more to it than that?
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