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« Reply #15 on: February 29, 2008, 22:32:01 »

dont you mean qprrule 11 brilliant units and 1 crap one as i seem to recall 865 was a pile of poo
863 was the worst but Scotrail had that heap pretty soon after FGW (First Great Western) took over!
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« Reply #16 on: February 29, 2008, 22:35:35 »


 We all live in the United Kingdom and we all deserve a decent rail service.

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Yes we all do deserve a decent rail service

But if you want to say we all live in the UNITED Kingdom - do away with the welsh assembly (and the scottish parliament who are worse BTW (by the way))

May be straying off topic but you cant be UK (United Kingdom) for somethings and welsh for others

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« Reply #17 on: March 01, 2008, 11:49:52 »

Besides, im sure being crammed into a carriage for half an hour is more bearable than 3 and a half hours?
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« Reply #18 on: March 01, 2008, 11:58:14 »

Devon Metro, see my previous post on Valley lines journey times.

The WAG» (Welsh Assembly Government - about) is only serving the same purpose that a PTE (Passenger Transport Executive) (or whatever they are called now) serve around Manchester etc. There should be something similar for the South West, but there isn't- this is why there is no Bristol commuter network (like there should be) and why stock could get transferred away in the way it did.
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« Reply #19 on: March 01, 2008, 13:16:59 »

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But if you want to say we all live in the UNITED Kingdom - do away with the welsh assembly (and the scottish parliament who are worse BTW (by the way))

How so worse? They both choose to spend money on reopening railways and expanding capacity. It is precisely because England is still under the dead hand of the Treasury that nothing of this kind is happening here.

In most of the rest of Europe, regional/local government has far more power than in the UK (United Kingdom), particularly with regard to things like transport, because they know far better than someone who never ventures beyond the capital city what local needs actually are.

Mookiemoo, I recall that you travel to Munich for work on occasion. The high-quality public transport system there is not the creation of a ministry in Berlin, it is the result of decisions made in the city itself and by the Bavarian regional government.

Closer to home, it's obvious no-one from the DfT» (Department for Transport - about) went on a Portsmouth-Cardiff train before deciding they could be run with two coaches instead of three, they just looked at some out-of-date passenger figures at their desk in London and signed it off.

Compare the quality of rail services in the handful of former metropolitan counties in England, which still have dedicated cross-boundary passenger transport authorities with a degree of autonomy over spending and some political clout, with what's on offer around say Bristol or Southampton/Portsmouth. But even in the PTA (Passenger Transport Authority) areas the Treasury has blocked a series of tram system plans.

We need more decentralisation in England, not less, with a slimmed-down UK government that actually trusts people to get on with deciding what's best for their area and region instead of constantly meddling.
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« Reply #20 on: March 01, 2008, 16:07:04 »

Calm down!

LM (London Midland - recent franchise) 150s will soon sort everybody out,  Grin if they still work!  Angry

About the WAG» (Welsh Assembly Government - about)/SNP:

*They are good because they invest in rail. Smiley

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« Reply #21 on: March 01, 2008, 21:42:24 »

dont you mean qprrule 11 brilliant units and 1 crap one as i seem to recall 865 was a pile of poo
863 was the worst but Scotrail had that heap pretty soon after FGW (First Great Western) took over!


Yep, quotes in the fault book included:
"Send this heap of crap back to where it belongs"
"Has this unit ever done more than 75MPH"
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« Reply #22 on: March 04, 2008, 17:56:42 »

Tell me how one meandering two car train an hour wandering through rural Somerset/Wiltshire/Hampshire is important to the Welsh economy.  I don't see much freight on it.

Especially as compared to the 12 or so Valleys Lines trains per hour which travel each way through Cardiff Central.



If the trains between Cardiff and Portsmouth were longer with some space for more passengers more of the residents of Cardiff and South Wales would travel into England and Spend their Money in England, hence affecting the Welsh economy.
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