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« Reply #30 on: December 12, 2007, 10:35:56 am »

Here is a copy of the SRUG (Saltash Rail Users Group) leaflet (link below.)
http://www.srug.org.uk/saltashtraintimetable.pdf
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« Reply #31 on: January 02, 2008, 11:16:54 am »

From Saltash Rail Users Group :

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Back on the tracks.. Tomorrow we will again have a slightly reduced service, at the beginning and end of the day (no 0718, 0736 or 2236. Check on www.nationalrail.co.uk for full details. The 0933 to Paddington runs slightly later at 0946 from Saltash, giving a slightly later start if you are visiting the  January Sales!

Fares rise on Wednesday the 2nd, but not by much. The peak fare from Saltash to Plymouth rises by 10p to ^2.90. The off peak fare stays at ^2.50 (just ^1.65 with a railcard such as the Devon and Cornwall railcard). Season tickets rise in line with the peak day return, so a weekly rises to ^8.70, use the Season Ticket calculator at www.nationalrail.co.uk to work out the exact cost. If you are planning to get a monthly or especially an Annual Season ticket then rush into Plymouth tomorrow, as you will pay the pre increase price. When you renew a monthly or annual season ticket then you will get a discount depending of train performance in the lead up to the renewal. It can be as much as 15%.

I hope to have news on several things over the next few weeks. The station building, improved station facilities and probably most importantly news on the May timetable. As always, if we can get more people onto the trains then we will get more services stopping, so keep spreading the word.
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« Reply #32 on: March 11, 2008, 06:25:46 pm »

From Saltash Rail Users Group :

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Great news. From May 19th Saltash will gain three extra weekday services. One eastbound service towards Plymouth and London, and two westbound services to Penzance.

The large early afternoon gap between the current 1252 and 1611 is at last filled by a Plymouth to Penzance train, that stops Saltash at 1409. This finally allows a return from Plymouth before the school rush, along with a good connection with the 1006 from London Paddington.

An additional evening service from London Paddington will also call at 2036, helping to close the 3 hour evening gap. This is the 1703 fro London Paddington. This service has Saver restrictions from Paddington, but cheap ^13.00 tickets are available if book far enough ahead, and it will also provide a useful evening service from Plymouth, Taunton or Exeter, where the restrictions are eased, and you can use Cheap Day or Saver Returns.

Eastbound, we gain a welcome extra service at 1329, to Newton Abbott. It connects well with a London service that arrives Paddington at 1724. The following Saltash service, currently at 1427 is retimed slightly later to 1442, but still connects with the 1500 Plymouth to Paddington train.

All in all, a great improvement, and many thanks to Julian Crow for these welcome additions.

Other changes, that come into effect on the 19th May are the slightly earlier running of two morning services. The 0827 to Penzance becomes the 0822, and the 0838 to Newquay becomes the 0833. This should allow the 0839 Paddington service which moves marginally earlier to 0838, to more often achieve it^s actual timetabled departure, as the Newquay service should be well clear of the Royal Albert Bridge sooner.

The 1040 to Penzance, will run slightly later at 1045, and will make additional stops through Cornwall, making it a more useful service, albeit with a marginal impact on overall journey times.
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« Reply #33 on: April 14, 2008, 11:33:38 am »

As anyone who has used Saltash station will know, the UP platform can be quite a struggle to get on or off a train, especially 150's with doors further from the ends. The curve combined with the track cant, push the train doors away from the platform. The problem was made worse about 12 years ago when Tarmac relaid the track bed too high!

Network Rail have now agreed to do something about it. Later this year the track cant through the curve will be reduced. The current cant is set for quite a high speed curve, which it certainly is not. This will bring train closer to the platform.

They will then reassess the situation and if the large gap has not been significantly reduced I would hope they would have a look at the track bed height issue.
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« Reply #34 on: April 14, 2008, 11:07:18 pm »

I've seen that you have had a very positive effect on passenger numbers from Saltash Richard, just by doing my every day job i've noticed HUGE increases in passenger numbers since you've been promoting the service, well done! I think your next campaign should be to re-staff the station, there is actually a ticket office building at the end of the modern concrete waiting shelter and wouldn't cost that much to get the station staffed again, it would certainly help with revenue collection as we don't have time to get through on the train now with SDO (Selective Door Opening) and collect fares and with the unreliability of the barriers at Plymouth a lot of revenue (and passenger numbers) are being lost. just a thought.
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« Reply #35 on: April 15, 2008, 06:58:40 am »

I've seen that you have had a very positive effect on passenger numbers from Saltash Richard, just by doing my every day job i've noticed HUGE increases in passenger numbers since you've been promoting the service, well done!

Its good to see the positive impact that Saltash Rail Users Group is having.
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« Reply #36 on: April 15, 2008, 08:21:20 am »

Ivybridge next anybody?
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« Reply #37 on: April 15, 2008, 11:39:34 am »

Vacman, thanks, it is good to hear that we are having an effect.

There are lots of things on the agenda, staffing is something we have thought about, and I have suggested a trial, which could be well promoted. Saltash is still awaiting its Riviera project upgrade, which should happen in tandem to the former station building refurbishment.

Part of those works at one point was to demolish the two concrete shelters and replace with simple glass 'bus' type shelters. We argued strongly against this with a longer term view to some staffing during peak times.

The former building itslef is currently being stripped out, and fingers crossed, will by the end of 2008 look like much like it used to. There is a grant from Railway Heritage to put back a canopy which we are looking forward to and hope that it will be built before next May when the station celebrates its 150th birthday, along with the bridge.

There are plans to put in better lightling, access ramps and CCTV (Closed Circuit Tele Vision), but these things all take time.

FGW (First Great Western) are doing their bit, and the timetable is getting much better, especially from May. We still mourn the loss of the early 'Dockyard' train, and those that need to be at work either at the Dockyard or Plymouth, have to travel by other means. We have a great station maintenance team, and station manager with Lee Edworthy in Plymouth.

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« Reply #38 on: April 16, 2008, 01:04:53 am »

Vacman, thanks, it is good to hear that we are having an effect.

There are lots of things on the agenda, staffing is something we have thought about, and I have suggested a trial, which could be well promoted. Saltash is still awaiting its Riviera project upgrade, which should happen in tandem to the former station building refurbishment.

Part of those works at one point was to demolish the two concrete shelters and replace with simple glass 'bus' type shelters. We argued strongly against this with a longer term view to some staffing during peak times.

The former building itslef is currently being stripped out, and fingers crossed, will by the end of 2008 look like much like it used to. There is a grant from Railway Heritage to put back a canopy which we are looking forward to and hope that it will be built before next May when the station celebrates its 150th birthday, along with the bridge.

There are plans to put in better lightling, access ramps and CCTV (Closed Circuit Tele Vision), but these things all take time.

FGW (First Great Western) are doing their bit, and the timetable is getting much better, especially from May. We still mourn the loss of the early 'Dockyard' train, and those that need to be at work either at the Dockyard or Plymouth, have to travel by other means. We have a great station maintenance team, and station manager with Lee Edworthy in Plymouth.


One interesting thing is that HST (High Speed Train) stop boards have been put at Keyham, maybe a return of the Dockyard express? the 0542 pnz-pad is ideally timed! I think Saltash would be a perfect place for a TVM (Ticket Vending Machine) ( ticket machine). Keep up the good work Richard!
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« Reply #39 on: April 16, 2008, 09:40:51 am »

I think the 0542 Penzance - Padd would be a little too late. The old Dockyard train stopped Saltash at about 0700 and the 0542 stops at 0733. Dockyard workers have an early and inflexible start.

The only real solution is to run run a unit out from Plymouth to Liskeard and back that would just follow the Golden Hind, and therefore pick up any passengers from deepest Cornwall.

There is however an argument for Saltash to have the Golden Hind stop. It would be at about 0640, a useful time. We have passengers that would use to make early starts in Plymouth, as well as daily commuters to Newton Abbott and Exeter, along with a significant number who want to get to London early. Controversial I know but a Saltash stop only costs a couple of minutes on the timetable and it already has six spare at Plymouth. If it did stop then FGW (First Great Western) could get away with running a unit from Plymouth to Saltash and back, picking up all those 'Yardies' from Cornwall. Back to the old days of a Plymouth - Saltash shuttle service.
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« Reply #40 on: April 16, 2008, 11:33:58 pm »

I think the 0542 Penzance - Padd would be a little too late. The old Dockyard train stopped Saltash at about 0700 and the 0542 stops at 0733. Dockyard workers have an early and inflexible start.

The only real solution is to run run a unit out from Plymouth to Liskeard and back that would just follow the Golden Hind, and therefore pick up any passengers from deepest Cornwall.

There is however an argument for Saltash to have the Golden Hind stop. It would be at about 0640, a useful time. We have passengers that would use to make early starts in Plymouth, as well as daily commuters to Newton Abbott and Exeter, along with a significant number who want to get to London early. Controversial I know but a Saltash stop only costs a couple of minutes on the timetable and it already has six spare at Plymouth. If it did stop then FGW (First Great Western) could get away with running a unit from Plymouth to Saltash and back, picking up all those 'Yardies' from Cornwall. Back to the old days of a Plymouth - Saltash shuttle service.
Agreed it wouldn't be too much of a time penalty, however, the 6 mins at Plymouth is needed on that service for the loading of restaurant equiptment and supplies. Next step is getting XC to stop there! Wink
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« Reply #41 on: April 19, 2008, 08:14:15 pm »

From the FGW (First Great Western) website :

17:35 Penzance to London Paddington due 23:37
This train has been revised.It will additionally call at: Saltash.


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« Reply #42 on: April 19, 2008, 10:07:00 pm »

The earlier train was started from Truro so I suspect that there were Saltash passengers trying to get back from somewhere between Penzance and Truro.
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« Reply #43 on: April 20, 2008, 12:56:51 am »

yes there proberly were passengers waiting between pnz and tru, st erth unmanned hayle camborne all unmanned passengers just left stranded screens showing next availble. same happened last friday.
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« Reply #44 on: April 20, 2008, 09:38:30 am »

Possibly a follow uup of the situation earlier.
150265 was on Falmouth but before working the 12:47 to Falmouth it was declared a failure by the driver as exhaust fumes were entering the passenger saloon.
150231(Arriva) was on the 12:44 Plymouth-Penzance and was terminated at Truro to be swaped with 265. The driver of 231 then said he wouldn't take 265 so it was moved into the yard. 150231 was put on to the Falmouth branch leaving 5 mins late. Everyone on 231 then had to wait for the HST (High Speed Train) 35 mins behind.
265 forms half of the 16:40 to Exeter St Davids and the other half would be a 153 or 150. Don't know why it was started at Truro as it is two units on the 16:40, both the units from Bristol.
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