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« on: December 08, 2017, 00:15:05 »

This news story is from a few days ago, but I thought it relevant to post it here, as possibly relevant in our own discussions relating to the electrification of parts of the Great Western Main Line.

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Man electrocuted at Manchester Piccadilly station


The man came into contact with wires at Manchester Piccadilly on Friday

A man who "came into contact with overhead electrical lines" at a railway station has died.

He suffered "injuries consistent with electrocution" and was pronounced dead at Manchester Piccadilly station, police said.

The man's death is not being treated as suspicious, British Transport Police said.

Officers were called to the scene just after 22:50 GMT on Friday.


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« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2017, 09:20:46 »

This news story is from a few days ago, but I thought it relevant to post it here, as possibly relevant in our own discussions relating to the electrification of parts of the Great Western Main Line.

From the BBC» (British Broadcasting Corporation - home page):

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Man electrocuted at Manchester Piccadilly station


The man came into contact with wires at Manchester Piccadilly on Friday

A man who "came into contact with overhead electrical lines" at a railway station has died.

He suffered "injuries consistent with electrocution" and was pronounced dead at Manchester Piccadilly station, police said.

The man's death is not being treated as suspicious, British Transport Police said.

Officers were called to the scene just after 22:50 GMT on Friday.




It does not say how he came into contact with something that was charged with sufficient electrical energy to kill him; was it direct contact with 25kV OLE (Overhead Line Equipment, more often "OHLE") or did he just happen to touch an extraneous metal part on the train or station that had become live
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« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2017, 13:09:05 »

I wondered how it could have been deemed to be not suspicious so quickly. According to the Manchester Evening News, the young man climbed onto the roof of the train. Why he did that has yet to be announced.

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Man electrocuted at Piccadilly after climbing onto roof of a train was 23 years old and from Manchester
Police, firefighters and paramedics were called to the scene but the man died after being electrocuted

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The cordon at Piccadilly station

The man killed after climbing onto the roof of a train at Piccadilly railway station and being electrocuted was 23, police have confirmed.

Horrified passengers witnessed the incident just before 11pm on Friday evening.

Police, firefighters and paramedics were called to the scene but the man died after being electrocuted.

A cordon was placed around a number of platforms while the emergency services responded to the incident.

Services to and from the station had to be cancelled as power to the overhead lines had to be turned off.

An investigation is underway into the tragedy although the death is not being treated as suspicious.

A spokesman for British Transport Police said: “The incident is not been treated as suspicious and a full report will be provided to the coroner to determine the circumstances around his death.”

The dead man is from Manchester, BTP (British Transport Police) confirmed.
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« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2017, 13:17:23 »

It sounds to me as though he came into direct contact with the OHLE, probably by climbing on top of a train.

A fatal electric shock whilst within a train is almost impossible, trains are largely metallic and all parts therefore at the same voltage.
A fatal shock from touching metallic equipment at low level is a theoretical possibility but most improbable in practice. It would require TWO faults, firstly damaged or displaced OHLE touching some other structure whilst still live, AND the metal structure being inadequately earthed or bonded.
Also any serious shock under such conditions would probably have led to evacuation of the station and isolation of the OHLE, other people could be at serious risk.

If however someone climbs to a height and touches live equipment with fatal consequences, then that does not imply any general risk to others. No need for much of an enquiry, beyond a coroners inquest.
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« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2017, 13:22:40 »

It seems the man in question was the author of his own misfortune. Why he climbed onto the train remains to be established, but it is not the sort of thing you can do accidentally.
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