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« Reply #45 on: May 28, 2018, 03:25:22 pm »

And some, like me, take the view that full fare open tickets are expensive.
For all that money  I think that a buffet should be provided on all longer routes, and a Pullman restaurant on selected services.
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"When customers say that they want a seat, they dont mean they want to sit with their knees behind their ears so that 4 more can sit down. They mean that they want an extra coach so that 74 more can sit down"
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« Reply #46 on: May 28, 2018, 04:09:07 pm »

And some, like me, take the view that full fare open tickets are expensive.
For all that money  I think that a buffet should be provided on all longer routes, and a Pullman restaurant on selected services.

I wonder how many people actually pay for full fare open tickets? They are eye wateringly expensive in most cases

If it made commercial sense to do so, you can be pretty sure that buffets would have been provided on all longer services, Travelling Chef was stopped because hardly anyone was using it, buffets are heading the same way. People's habits change and whimsy or nostalgia is not a reason to maintain a lossmaking service.

The fact is that there are far more options for customers now, M & S food stores at many stations for example, where food is better value, better quality and there's far more choice. If I want to have a coffee and a sandwich, I'll visit Costa and M & S before I board.

Pullman is provided on selected services so that ticks your box, it's priced and designed for what a niche market wants and is prepared to pay for but it's unlikely that its appeal will expand it much beyond where it is now.


People want a reliable reasonably priced service which transports them from A to B as quickly as possible. GWR are not currently achieving this and are nowhere near meeting the high expectations that they created.

I would suggest that catering is some way down the list of priorities for most, especially when crammed onto a 5 car train that should be 10, or left on the platform for want of a driver.
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« Reply #47 on: May 28, 2018, 05:01:50 pm »

I used to regularly pay the full first open fare from Paddington to Taunton, during the years that I did this the first open single fare increased from about 50 to about 170, cant remember the exact price.

The 18-03 train was my favourite, being fast, having a restaurant, and the earliest that I could catch after work. Availability of discounted fares was of course limited on this popular service.

I did not begrudge the rather high fare provided that all went reasonably well, booking honoured, restaurant available and train reasonably punctual.
I was disgusted however if I paid that much, and the advertised restaurant did not appear, or if I had to stand. Delays worried me less unless extreme.
I was also somewhat disgusted with Reading commuters who should not even have been on the train, invading first class with standard  tickets. Or standing in First and obstructing the Pullman crew.

I used to make the return trip about 12 times a year, more like twice a year now.
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« Reply #48 on: May 28, 2018, 05:10:44 pm »

I used to regularly pay the full first open fare from Paddington to Taunton, during the years that I did this the first open single fare increased from about 50 to about 170, cant remember the exact price.

The 18-03 train was my favourite, being fast, having a restaurant, and the earliest that I could catch after work. Availability of discounted fares was of course limited on this popular service.

I did not begrudge the rather high fare provided that all went reasonably well, booking honoured, restaurant available and train reasonably punctual.
I was disgusted however if I paid that much, and the advertised restaurant did not appear, or if I had to stand. Delays worried me less unless extreme.
I was also somewhat disgusted with Reading commuters who should not even have been on the train, invading first class with standard  tickets. Or standing in First and obstructing the Pullman crew.

I used to make the return trip about 12 times a year, more like twice a year now.

...you really ARE Jacob Rees-Mogg aren't you! (I'm still waiting for my fiver from last time!!!)  Grin
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