Train Graphic
Great Western Passengers' Forum Great Western Coffee Shop - [home] and [about]
Read about the forum [here].
Register and contribute [here] - it's free.
 tomorrow - First Bath Bus panel
tomorrow - Consultation end - Angel Road
26/11/2018 - TransWilts Board and Members
26/11/2018 - Bath Clean Air consult ends
28/11/2018 - Melksham RUG
28/11/2018 - WECA Scrutiny
Random Image
Train Running @GWR Twitter Acronyms/Abbreviations Station Comparator Rail News GWR co. site Site Style 1 2 3 4 Chat on off
November 20, 2018, 04:04:22 pm *
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Forgotten your username or password? - get a reminder
Most liked recent subjects
[88] Something rather special - near Bristol - 16th Feb 2019
[65] Wanted - someone who majors in politics - to help revitalise r...
[61] Four track for Filton Bank - ongoing discussion
[44] Renumbering platforms at Bristol Temple Meads
[44] Cotswold Line - 2018 cancellation and amendments log
[41] MetroBus
News: A forum for passengers ... with input from rail professionals welcomed too
 
   Home   Help Search Calendar Login Register  
Pages: [1]
  Print  
Author Topic: Cycling by train  (Read 1633 times)
LiskeardRich
Transport Scholar
Hero Member
******
Posts: 3108

richardwarwicker@hotmail.co.uk
View Profile
« on: January 01, 2018, 02:15:43 pm »

Iíve recently purchased myself a bike, this morning I cycled to Looe to burn off last night.
Iím not yet fit enough to cycle back so used the train, but it got me thinking how complex cycling by train can be. Irrelevant to the Looe branch but on the Cornish mainline I can turn up on go on some services and others I need to book in advance. I can work it out which services are 150/153 operates from the lack of 1st class marker on the timetable, but would a general passenger know this? Iím fortunate to know enough to plan around non hst/voyager services with my bike.
Itís rather a tight fit getting my bike into a 153 though, the doors being very narrow with a tight turn needed to access the bike rack but I got there
Logged
ChrisB
Transport Scholar
Hero Member
******
Posts: 9732


View Profile Email
« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2018, 02:50:01 pm »

I think the info is all out there if one isn't afraid to check, rather than simply assume trains carry bikes.
Logged
Richard Fairhurst
Global Moderator
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 695


View Profile Email
« Reply #2 on: January 01, 2018, 03:05:22 pm »

In theory it should be indicated in the timetable. It isn't always. (Such as the time not too long ago when I tried to take my bike on the service which the timetable said would be a reservation-free Turbo, but a 180 turned up. The guard did eventually let me on, but not without a sternly-delivered lecture.)

Sadly taking full-size bikes on GWR has become such a palaver these days that, nine times out of ten, I now take my folder. I'm lucky in that I have a folder capable of long-distance rides, but most folding bikes aren't really suitable for country leisure cycling - think Bromptons with their three-speed Sturmey-Archer gears.
Logged
LiskeardRich
Transport Scholar
Hero Member
******
Posts: 3108

richardwarwicker@hotmail.co.uk
View Profile
« Reply #3 on: January 01, 2018, 03:36:11 pm »

On the online journey planner I can see no indication at all.
Logged
grahame
Administrator
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 22554



View Profile WWW Email
« Reply #4 on: January 01, 2018, 03:37:49 pm »

I think the info is all out there if one isn't afraid to check, rather than simply assume trains carry bikes.

Hmmm ... for many people, it come from knowing how to check, which is not obvious!  [noting Rickwarwicker's follow up - not on the journey planner so you need to find the .pdf timetable online.    Simples??]

In theory it should be indicated in the timetable. It isn't always. (Such as the time not too long ago when I tried to take my bike on the service which the timetable said would be a reservation-free Turbo, but a 180 turned up. The guard did eventually let me on, but not without a sternly-delivered lecture.)

I'm noting that an HST is running one diagram of Taunton to Cardiff today (odd when there should be more 166s about?) and so I expect there will be similar issues there is the train manager is a "Jobsworth".

This issue of cycle reservations was brought home to me at Chippenham a in the autumn.    Passenger with cycle waiting to travel on the 17:53 to Trowbridge ... 17:53 cancelled and he had to rush over to the booking office to get a cycle reservation - although it was announced that tickets "via Melksham" would be honoured via Bath Spa, no such concession is offered for people with cycles who plan to travel on units that are cancelled and fall back to HSTs!
Logged

Coffee Shop Admin, Member of Melksham Rail User Group, on the board of TravelWatch SouthWest and some more things besides
ChrisB
Transport Scholar
Hero Member
******
Posts: 9732


View Profile Email
« Reply #5 on: January 01, 2018, 04:20:22 pm »

Surely the newbie cyclist taking their bike for the first time wiuld either ask at a ticket office and/or the National Rail/TOC (if they knew which one) website. I certainly wouldn't expect the online planner to tell you directly. Trains generally carry people, not cycles per se
Logged
CyclingSid
Transport Scholar
Sr. Member
******
Posts: 226


View Profile
« Reply #6 on: January 01, 2018, 04:57:10 pm »

The bike situation appears to be deteriorating, less bike spaces marked on SWR now.
Glad for a Brompton, and with the six gears (hub and derailleur) it gets me where I want, only weak pint is the ageing legs. Otherpeople must be thinking the same way, I am regularly questioned about the details of the Brompton and how to buy one.
Logged
Henry
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 304


paul.coll1134@gmail.com
View Profile
« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2018, 07:59:24 am »


 I've noticed an increase of cycle rack provision at some stations in Devon.
 
 So when we get our new 'express trains', I assume the provision for cycles will be the same as
 Cross-Country services, which is limited.
 Also I believe luggage and cycles have to 'fight it out' for limited space available.
 At Totnes a XC service at 0750 usually has more than it's fair share of cycles, but some of the
 Train Manager's, bar one, are quite accommodating.

 Hence I assume the new cycle racks are their for this reason .
Logged
CyclingSid
Transport Scholar
Sr. Member
******
Posts: 226


View Profile
« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2018, 09:07:01 am »

Also on the XTC going to Southampton when there is a cruise ship due to leave you can expect all the bike spaces to stacked with luggage.
Logged
Bmblbzzz
Transport Scholar
Hero Member
******
Posts: 1625


View Profile
« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2018, 10:12:46 am »


 I've noticed an increase of cycle rack provision at some stations in Devon.
 
 So when we get our new 'express trains', I assume the provision for cycles will be the same as
 Cross-Country services, which is limited.
 Also I believe luggage and cycles have to 'fight it out' for limited space available.
 At Totnes a XC service at 0750 usually has more than it's fair share of cycles, but some of the
 Train Manager's, bar one, are quite accommodating.

 Hence I assume the new cycle racks are their for this reason .
They might be, but if they're intended to reduce demand for cycle spaces on trains, I don't know they'll work. The only way I can see that would work is by persuading people who commute at each end by bike and take their bike on the train, to leave a bike at each end instead; or to walk, bus or whatever at one end, leaving their bike at the station. I'm not sure how successful it would be in persuading people to do this, as it relies on people wanting to do so now but being put off by lack of bike parking at one or both ends. And it won't affect the demand from people who want to take their bike somewhere (on holiday or whatever).
Logged

Day return to Infinity, please.
Do you have something you would like to add to this thread, or would you like to raise a new question at the Coffee Shop? Please [register] (it is free) if you have not done so before, or login (at the top of this page) if you already have an account - we would love to read what you have to say!

You can find out more about how this forum works [here] - that will link you to a copy of the forum agreement that you can read before you join, and tell you very much more about how we operate. We are an independent forum, provided and run by customers of Great Western Railway, for customers of Great Western Railway and we welcome railway professionals as members too, in either a personal or official capacity. Views expressed in posts are not necessarily the views of the operators of the forum.

As well as posting messages onto existing threads, and starting new subjects, members can communicate with each other through personal messages if they wish. And once members have made a certain number of posts, they will automatically be admitted to the "frequent posters club", where subjects not-for-public-domain are discussed; anything from the occasional rant to meetups we may be having ...

 
Pages: [1]
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.2 | SMF © 2006-2007, Simple Machines LLC Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!
This forum is provided by a customer of Great Western Railway (formerly First Great Western), and the views expressed are those of the individual posters concerned. Visit www.gwr.com for the official Great Western Railway website. Please contact the administrators of this site if you feel that the content provided by one of our posters contravenes our posting rules (email link). Forum hosted by Well House Consultants