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grahame
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« on: January 04, 2018, 09:07:24 PM »

I think we may have a restaurant car expert or three on the forum?   Any reports / comments?

From Wales Online

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This fried breakfast has been dished up for the first time on one of Wales’ new diesel-electric intercity trains.

The Pullman dining car service has been moved over to the new fleet of Intercity Express Trains (IET) as the rollout of the new faster, larger trains continues.
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« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2018, 09:10:20 PM »

Certainly looks extremely good...
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« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2018, 07:03:03 PM »

Looks good, but I have not tried the Pullman on any of the new trains as yet.

Whilst I am pleased to see that the Pullman service has survived the introduction of the DMUs, it does  NOT make up for the absence of a buffet on a so called inter city train.

I would be interested to know how the service is run with a pair of 5 car DMUs, and how diners and non dining first class are accommodated in the two different first class areas.
Are standard class allowed in the restaurant ?
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« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2018, 10:21:26 PM »

Questions regarding the pullman....

Am I correct you can only book using a first class ticket? If you have a standard ticket it is down to luck?

I would imagine some first class advances are reasonably cheap.  If you take the 1045 from Padd to Swansea which has the pullman (I think only on weekdays) how far should I travel to enjoy the fine dining at leisure as opposed to being constrained by time.  I guess I could upgrade my ticket...

What a fantastic service.  Just a shame there are so few Pullmans and I would not risk buying a standard class ticket on the off chance of gaining a table.  I presume First Class passengers pay extra for the food.

With priv rate I would imagine you can buy a priv rate standard ticket and again gamble for a seat...

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« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2018, 08:47:00 AM »

Yes, first class can book a seat in the Pullman. On HSTs, standard class can also dine if space is available on the day, but can not book. I presume this also applies on the new trains.

No Pullmans operate on weekends or public holidays.

The time taken to enjoy a meal without rushing, is a bit subjective but I would say at least two hours. I regularly dine on the 18-03 from Paddington, alighting at Taunton. That is just under two hours and can be a little rushed.

The price of the meal is in addition to the fare, expect to pay from about £50 a head up to about £100 a head, depending on what if any drink is taken. Menus with prices are on the GWR website.
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« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2018, 10:10:03 AM »

Just to add the 10:45 London Paddington to Swansea service serves the brunch menu rather than the full dinner, so you could probably fit in a meal without rushing in around an hour - so London to Swindon or Bristol Parkway.
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