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« on: January 09, 2018, 07:17:05 am »

Radio Cornwall this morning are reporting that the old footbridge at St Austell has been delisted and will be removed to a heritage railway in Wales for restoration.
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« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2018, 07:37:57 am »

Radio Cornwall this morning are reporting that the old footbridge at St Austell has been delisted and will be removed to a heritage railway in Wales for restoration.

Very interesting that this can be done here, when there's major issues between Didcot and Swindon where it seems there's an immovable bridge - from Historic England

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« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2018, 05:14:20 pm »

Very sad to see it go, though relieved that at least it has a new home, albeit one quite far from Cornwall.
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« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2018, 09:47:51 pm »

Purely for completeness, here is a picture of that footbridge, from Cornwall Live:



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« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2018, 10:16:38 pm »

Radio Cornwall this morning are reporting that the old footbridge at St Austell has been delisted and will be removed to a heritage railway in Wales for restoration.


Any idea which railway it's off to?
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« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2018, 10:19:04 pm »

Historic England apparently withdrew their opposition to delisting on two points. Half the station has already been redeveloped and the bridge itself is a standard design and not unique.
Personally I would rather have the money paid in fares go towards improving a modern railway than spent on decrepit follies. If people want a transport museum go to a heritage railway.

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« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2018, 10:22:07 pm »

....and nothing to do with either bridge on the station..

http://www.cornwalllive.com/news/cornwall-news/woman-serious-injures-railway-bridge-1034287
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« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2018, 10:41:19 pm »

Radio Cornwall this morning are reporting that the old footbridge at St Austell has been delisted and will be removed to a heritage railway in Wales for restoration.


Any idea which railway it's off to?

Bala Lake
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« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2018, 08:21:44 am »

Lostwithiel Town Council and others have asked that this decision be revisited, with a view to refurbishing the bridge and relocating it to Lostwithiel where the busiest main line level crossing west of Exeter makes the reinstatement of a bridge essential with the forthcoming timetable changes in Cornwall.
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« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2018, 11:33:54 am »

I dare say users of Pilning station could have found a use for it, too.
 
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« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2018, 12:40:16 pm »

Personally I would rather have the money paid in fares go towards improving a modern railway than spent on decrepit follies. If people want a transport museum go to a heritage railway.
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« Reply #11 on: August 02, 2018, 05:00:53 pm »

I've heard a rumour that the footbridge may not be leaving Cornwall for Wales after all. Does anyone have any idea what (if any) plans there are for it now?

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« Reply #12 on: August 03, 2018, 12:37:30 pm »

I've heard a rumour that the footbridge may not be leaving Cornwall for Wales after all. Does anyone have any idea what (if any) plans there are for it now?

Thank you.
 

https://cornishstuff.com/2018/07/26/wales-doesnt-want-it-now-so-st-austell-bridge-could-stay-in-cornwall/

Wales doesn’t want it now, so St Austell Bridge could stay in Cornwall

July 26, 2018 #Latest News, Heritage, Steve Double


The iconic Victorian footbridge at St Austell Railway station could find a Cornish home after all as the heritage railway due to take it to Wales said it no longer wants it.

It had been feared that the bridge could be removed from Cornwall altogether and put at the Bala Lake Railway, despite protests from the St Austell community.

Local MP Steve Double said he has received an update,

“I was pleased to recently hear from management at Network Rail that the Bala Lake Railway in Wales had decided to withdraw their interest in the St Austell rail footbridge.”

“Even more so that the Helston Railway in West Cornwall has now shown a strong interest in acquiring the structure.”

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“My preferred option has always been that this iconic part of our town should stay where it is and be restored, but keeping it in Cornwall is certainly a step in the right direction.”

“I remain in correspondence with Network Rail regarding the future of the bridge and will continue to do what I can to keep it as close as possible to its current position as this is the clearly expressed will of many local people”


A similar fate is due for the bridge at St Erth Station. Network Rail are determined to replace it with a more accessible and modern bridge  and senior NR staff told us during Chris Grayling’s visit that ‘anyone can have it if they want it’.

The Transport Secretary was surprised to learn that the St Erth bridge would be replaced after he was photographed on it with local MP Derek Thomas. Helston Heritage Railway is again the obvious choice but Cllr Colin Martin said that Lostwithiel would also be interested in taking it.

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« Reply #13 on: August 03, 2018, 03:32:44 pm »

Thanks, Phantom, for that information. If indeed both St Austell and St Erth footbridges have to go, it'd be nice if Lostwithiel and the Helston Railway could have one each. 
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