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« Reply #30 on: May 16, 2018, 01:26:02 pm »

I think that the RMT should put in a bid for the franchise, and show us all how it should be done !

With no "fat cat" shareholders, just think what huge improvements could be made Smiley

.... and no "fat cat" union bosses either !
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« Reply #31 on: May 16, 2018, 01:53:13 pm »

This just in .
http://www.lnerailway.co.uk.
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« Reply #32 on: May 16, 2018, 01:55:21 pm »

Can't help wondering how much worse GWR has to get, before Graying considers it a prime candidate for DoR
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« Reply #33 on: May 16, 2018, 02:09:15 pm »

A few interesting nuances in the full statement: https://www.gov.uk/government/speeches/east-coast-rail-update

Particularly: "there is also an operational case for integrating Great Northern services from Kings Cross into the new LNER operation, and this is an option that I am asking my officials and the new LNER route board to do feasibility work on."
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« Reply #34 on: May 16, 2018, 02:12:21 pm »

London and North Eastern Railways Ltd as a company was a name change from 'DFT OLR1 Ltd' back in February.

However, between 2013 and 2016 this company was called GW Railways Ltd.

So maybe it had been prepared at that time for something that didn't occur ... does that match up with one of the award dates?

The DfT also have London Midland Trains Ltd, Transpennine Express Ltd, EM Trains Ltd, West Coast Mainline Ltd and Thameslink Ltd up their sleeve at present.

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« Reply #35 on: May 16, 2018, 02:17:41 pm »

Interesting! There's a DFT OLR2 too (Operator of Last Resort, presumably).
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« Reply #36 on: May 16, 2018, 02:22:25 pm »

There is also a British Rail Ltd but I can't see that making a comeback Smiley
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« Reply #37 on: May 16, 2018, 02:27:28 pm »

Take over on June 24.
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« Reply #38 on: May 16, 2018, 03:41:08 pm »

Wasn't the old LNER (pre '48) one of the poorest of the big 4, always struggling to pay their way and a divi to shareholders.....

Deja-vue all over again Huh
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« Reply #39 on: May 16, 2018, 03:43:52 pm »

The Intercity East Coast franchise was first retendered in 2005. In the 13 years since, there have been five franchisees*. Every privately owned franchise has failed. That's not even 3 years per franchise. Just constant turmoil. Yet the Tories still argue that the privatisation model they chose works. Ideologically deluded fools.


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« Reply #40 on: May 16, 2018, 03:59:25 pm »

Hmmm - for every failure, there's a winner.

I give you Chiltern Railways
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« Reply #41 on: May 16, 2018, 04:28:32 pm »

I'll see your Chiltern Railways and raise you Connex South Eastern.  Tongue
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« Reply #42 on: May 16, 2018, 04:49:23 pm »

What's the Private part of the partnership of LNER PPI doesn't that have fat cats?
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« Reply #43 on: May 16, 2018, 05:10:13 pm »

I'll see your Chiltern Railways and raise you Connex South Eastern.  Tongue
And Connex South Central
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« Reply #44 on: May 16, 2018, 05:22:17 pm »

Another crystal ball failure, when WILL the present government realize that and let nationalization take its natural course.
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