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« on: February 09, 2018, 12:33:20 »

I though stop-skipping was the Scottish disease these days?

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09:29 Swansea to London Paddington due 12:30
09:29 Swansea to London Paddington due 12:30 will no longer call at Swindon, Didcot Parkway and Reading.
It has been delayed at Swansea and is now 22 minutes late.
This is due to this train being late from the depot.
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Only the front 5 coaches are available for customer use this morning.

At 22 late, there will be a Cardiff to London just 8 minutes behind, so I guess there is some sense in this
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« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2018, 13:03:58 »

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This is due to this train being late from the depot.

Only partially true, a 27 minute turnaround at Paddington along with a 12 minute stop at Reading didn't help
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« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2018, 13:16:14 »

I though stop-skipping was the Scottish disease these days?

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09:29 Swansea to London Paddington due 12:30
09:29 Swansea to London Paddington due 12:30 will no longer call at Swindon, Didcot Parkway and Reading.
It has been delayed at Swansea and is now 22 minutes late.
This is due to this train being late from the depot.
Additional Information
Only the front 5 coaches are available for customer use this morning.

At 22 late, there will be a Cardiff to London just 8 minutes behind, so I guess there is some sense in this

Helpful in massaging the performance figures too.
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« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2018, 15:58:08 »

Any missed stops or early terminations will soon be classed as 'cancellations' for the new performance figure percentage metrics.  Missing stops often helps the next service that train operates depart on time, and therefore reduces the amount of time it takes to recover from any disruption.  It's a double-edged sword, but in many cases is the best way of minimising delays for the majority of people.
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« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2018, 16:43:35 »

Any missed stops or early terminations will soon be classed as 'cancellations' for the new performance figure percentage metrics.

This is what applies now, under the Cancellation and significant lateness metric (CaSL). A train is counted as being a CaSL failure if:

It is cancelled at origin.
It is cancelled en route.
The originating station is changed.
It fails to make a scheduled stop at a station.
It is significantly late (ie it arrives at its terminating station 30 minutes or more late).

Any train which is a CaSL failure also fails PPM(resolve). So therefore even if a train which has missed stops arrives at its destination on time, it is still a PPM failure.
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« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2018, 08:30:58 »

I though stop-skipping was the Scottish disease these days?

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09:29 Swansea to London Paddington due 12:30
09:29 Swansea to London Paddington due 12:30 will no longer call at Swindon, Didcot Parkway and Reading.
It has been delayed at Swansea and is now 22 minutes late.
This is due to this train being late from the depot.
Additional Information
Only the front 5 coaches are available for customer use this morning.

At 22 late, there will be a Cardiff to London just 8 minutes behind, so I guess there is some sense in this

SWR» (South Western Railway - about) and SWT (South West Trains) before them also skip stops or divert trains occasionally. It seems to work in my favour in the morning when the train skips stops and against me in the evening when a Waterloo to Guildford train via Epsom diverts via Cobham giving me another hour wait for the next one.
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« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2018, 18:38:39 »

The title of this thread immediately grabbed my attention, so I am slightly disappointed to find out that it does not, in fact, refer to designated station calls where everyone gets out for a spot of communal exercise.
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« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2018, 20:28:33 »

Some of the London stations are favourite to be missed out during disruption, just so their precious high speed services are not a few minutes late due to the more consistently busy London stopping services actually having to pick up passengers Roll Eyes. Certainly in the last 2-3 months there have been a few times where everything has had to use the Up Main between Southall West crossovers and Acton West crossovers, so the Southall and Ealing Broadway stops have been cancelled (although sometimes they still call). Last month I actually ended up getting affected when GWR (Great Western Railway) cancelled the Southall stop on the 1344 at only 7 minutes late (and told no one at the station!) simply because it was diverted onto the Up Main. The HC and GWR Hayes & Harlington services were already cancelled due to wind blowing something onto the OHLE, and it was a 30 minute wait until the next train. Luckily the 1415 was on time and actually stopped on the Up Main, and more importantly the TfL» (Transport for London - about) Rail staff got the driver to wait while everyone made it around over the bridge. While I'm not the biggest fan of TfL, I am looking forward to their takeover of services as I'm certain they'll be more stubborn at not having the London stations missed out in disruption.

Having said that, we've been lucky that GWR used DMUs (Diesel Multiple Unit) when the H&H services couldn't use EMUs (Electric Multiple Unit) on the two occasions with OHLE issues since January, first in the bay platform then the one around Ladbroke Grove. Surprised they simply didn't cancel them (especially as the EMUs are still running to DMU timings so time from extra stops gets gained easily).
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« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2018, 20:14:45 »

I though stop-skipping was the Scottish disease these days?
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09:29 Swansea to London Paddington due 12:30
09:29 Swansea to London Paddington due 12:30 will no longer call at Swindon, Didcot Parkway and Reading.
It has been delayed at Swansea and is now 22 minutes late.
This is due to this train being late from the depot.
Additional Information
Only the front 5 coaches are available for customer use this morning.
At 22 late, there will be a Cardiff to London just 8 minutes behind, so I guess there is some sense in this

Was at Parkway this morning, 10:03 to PAD» (Paddington (London) - next trains) (the up Red Dragon) 21 mins late due to a fault on this train and only 5 carriages. Probabaly couldn't join the 2 units together at Swansea. Arrived from Carmarthen on time left SWA» (Swansea - next trains) 31 late and was announced as then to run non stop to PAD.

Whilst at BPW» (Bristol Parkway - next trains) almost every service was delayed, those that weren't were either starters at BPW or XC (Cross Country Trains (franchise)) services but XC did not escape some late running.

On my return through BPW a 5-car 800 came into pl 4 and reversed back towards the Stoke Gifford Depot.
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