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« Reply #30 on: March 13, 2018, 13:24:02 »

How about the "Rail Business of the year" trophy? Might get 50p for that? 😉
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« Reply #31 on: March 13, 2018, 14:06:38 »

Seize Mark Hopwood's office chair. He might just get off his butt then.  Tongue
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« Reply #32 on: May 06, 2018, 18:42:54 »

Bailiffs sent to large firms don't often take actual physical goods, the threat of so doing almost always produces payment by card or electronic transfer.
Companies that resisted paying up by offering all the usual excuses, tend to discover that they CAN pay the money instantly once bailiffs threaten to take away office furniture or IT equipment.

Although in theory a train could be taken, I doubt that it would ever happen. I cant imagine bailiffs being permitted to drive it on network rail tracks, and arranging a crane and road transport is far too complex, costly and time consuming.

Road vehicles are an easier target and are sometimes taken, if no money is forthcoming.
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU (Diesel Multiple Unit) is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #33 on: May 06, 2018, 19:35:51 »

TOCs (Train Operating Company) rarely own the trains so that bailiffs could not take them.  In fact if you look at it TOCs have very few major assets
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« Reply #34 on: May 06, 2018, 21:11:05 »

The fact that TOCs (Train Operating Company) don't own trains was an essential feature of the privatisation. IIRC (if I recall/remember/read correctly) First Group may own some HSTs (High Speed Train) but not the GWR (Great Western Railway) subsidiary. I understood that this was a condition of the franchise contract.   
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« Reply #35 on: June 11, 2018, 06:42:56 »

Customers still being misled;

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-44430134
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« Reply #36 on: June 11, 2018, 08:55:52 »

The circumstances in the above report though seem not to be consequential losses, but direct. If the cancellation of the last train meant someone missed clinching a business deal rather than paying for a taxi to complete a journey for example that would be consequential.
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« Reply #37 on: June 11, 2018, 09:29:48 »

Good to see all three of the major First franchises, GWR (Great Western Railway), SWR» (South Western Railway - about) and TPE (Trans Pennine Express), appeared to have all been giving out the correct advice.
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« Reply #38 on: June 11, 2018, 17:25:50 »

Good to see all three of the major First franchises, GWR (Great Western Railway), SWR» (South Western Railway - about) and TPE (Trans Pennine Express), appeared to have all been giving out the correct advice.

Yay, well done Capita !!!  Grin Grin
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« Reply #39 on: June 11, 2018, 19:25:33 »

For  anyone who needs it;

https://www.which.co.uk/consumer-rights/regulation/consumer-rights-act-travel-amendments#claiming-for-consequential-loss?utm_campaign=whichukt&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_content=traincomp&utm_term=twnews
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« Reply #40 on: June 11, 2018, 22:33:55 »

Good to see all three of the major First franchises, GWR (Great Western Railway), SWR» (South Western Railway - about) and TPE (Trans Pennine Express), appeared to have all been giving out the correct advice.

Well they were not mentioned as having given misleading or inconsistent advice... ...but the article didn't actually say they gave the right advice.. ..did they answer the phone?
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« Reply #41 on: June 12, 2018, 09:26:09 »

I assume Which? would have pointed it out if they had not answered.
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