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Author Topic: Two other split ticket examples in you have network card  (Read 3342 times)
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« on: April 15, 2018, 17:38:58 »

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« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2018, 18:33:01 »

Far too many unexplained acronyms there.

Even I had to look up a couple. Casual readers who don't know about station or ticket type codes would have no idea. Formatting is totally confusing too.

Identifying savings: 8/10
Explaining them: 1/10

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« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2018, 18:41:54 »

Far too many unexplained acronyms there.

Even I had to look up a couple. Casual readers who don't know about station or ticket type codes would have no idea. Formatting is totally confusing too.

Identifying savings: 8/10
Explaining them: 1/10

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Agreed ... but isn't this forum wonderful that one person can bring things to our attention (done) although not find it straightforward to format and explain.   Then another can go through using his overlapping knowledge and work out the detail for himself (done) and then go on and help the original poster ny explaining for the rest of us (not yet done - please help by explaining to us, bignosemac!)
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« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2018, 18:57:07 »

I'd rather the OP (Original Poster / topic starter) edited his post. I might get it wrong.  Wink

Ahh. Nothing to edit now.  Huh
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« Reply #4 on: April 15, 2018, 18:59:09 »

Justin its gone. What a pity there's no two finger smiley!
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« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2018, 19:19:28 »

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Very sad, because (yes) that was rather technically worded - but it was also 8/10 useful in identifying savings. 

The moderator and admin team here encourage anyone and everyone to post, provided only that "you will not post any material which is false, defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing, obscene, profane, sexually oriented, threatening, invasive of a person's privacy, adult material"   Your post was none of those.   Interestingly, it could be argued that the response you got was harassing (and indeed it persuaded you to delete your post) and I'm sure the member who responded will take note of that.

And actually it was rather useful.    I think I got the gist of it and will re-post as a service to our members. And THANK YOU for the original post.
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« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2018, 19:34:52 »

My post could be argued as harassing? Really? But if you say so I'm more than happy to argue why it wasn't. Perhaps the single tongue in cheek smiley was not enough to express the tone I was taking I'm my reply. I've added a couple more.

You quoted forum rules grahame. Allow me to as well:

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b. Please try to cut down on the number of acronyms you use - we DO have an acronym page on which I try to list them all as they come up, but at times I get my GOSW» (Government Offices South West - about) mixed up with my GOBLs (Gospel Oak to Barking Line) - so what must it do to the newcomers?   If you introduce an acronym to make your post less verbose, please define it the first time in full
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« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2018, 19:45:00 »

Justin its gone. What a pity there's no two finger smiley!

Here you go, closest I could find:

http://www.sherv.net/cm/emo/rude/1/double-finger.gif

Just stick that link in [img ] [/img ] tags and jobs a good 'un.

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« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2018, 19:58:00 »

My post could be argued as harassing? Really? But if you say so I'm more than happy to argue why it wasn't. Perhaps the single tongue in cheek smiley was not enough to express the tone I was taking I'm my reply. I've added a couple more.

You quoted forum rules grahame. Allow me to as well:

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b. Please try to cut down on the number of acronyms you use - we DO have an acronym page on which I try to list them all as they come up, but at times I get my GOSW» (Government Offices South West - about) mixed up with my GOBLs (Gospel Oak to Barking Line) - so what must it do to the newcomers?   If you introduce an acronym to make your post less verbose, please define it the first time in full


There is a difference between request - and we request members to cut down the number of acronyms they use and require - where we require members to not be ... harassing amongst other things.  That's a "three line whip" versus a "one line whip" if you like.

It's all too easy to post and overlook things - requests, requirements, courtesy, how much load you put on the admin team who give their time for free, etc ... and the general approach of the forum is to gently point these things out - especially to newer members and occasional posters who can so easily overlook.  Now that we've aired these issues on this thread (including noting how much moderator / admin time it's burning up), perhaps we should get back to the gist of this ticket splitting thread?



Split ticketing can make a substantial saving in fares, and is within the rules provided that each part of the split is valid and you catch a train that calls at the change-over station.   The point being made was that if you hold a networker card (which as I understand it - AIUI (as I understand it)) gives you a discount in the London and South East Area, you can sometimes make a saving by using the card to buy a ticket up to the last Network South East station, and then an onward ticket, even if the sum of the normal (undercounted) tickets is more that a normal return.

Example was Blackwater to Swindon ... improved by a Blackwater to Didcot ticket on a Network South East card, and a Didcot to Swindon ticket undercounted.

Similar example Blackwater to Birmingham?

Also worth noting the more general principle that if you're starting a long journey in a peak, but carrying on well after the peak, it's worth looking into splitting with a peak ticket for the first part of the journey and an off peak for the second part, even if the sum of two (split) peak fares exceeds the price of a peak fare all the way.

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« Reply #9 on: August 16, 2018, 23:28:06 »

Anyhow, a bit of an anomomly, or question.
A couple of times I have bought a split ticket on the train( because there is no ticket machine at Dean).
Tickets were Dean to Basingstoke ( anytime) and Basingstoke to Waterloo , ( off peak) on a weekday.

Both times I was given a full discount on the Dean to Basingstoke Section, reducing the fare for that portion below the £13 minimum.
Just got lucky, or is there a £13 purchase rather than £13 fare minimum ?Seems a bit unlikely.

And BTW (by the way), the strikes down here are really bloody annoying. And though I am usually on the side of employees, I can’t figure what it is they are fighting for.
Please feel free to enlighten me.
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« Reply #10 on: August 17, 2018, 07:29:00 »

Both times I was given a full discount on the Dean to Basingstoke Section, reducing the fare for that portion below the £13 minimum. Just got lucky, or is there a £13 purchase rather than £13 fare minimum ? Seems a bit unlikely.

The truth is sometimes more surprising than fiction. From https://www.network-railcard.co.uk/using-your-railcard/minimum-fare/

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The minimum discounted adult fare payable is £13 on all journeys Monday to Friday. This adult minimum fare does not apply at weekends or on Public Holidays.

You are making a journey from Dean to Waterloo, and as I read that, you have to pay at least £13 in total for that journey, irrespective of any splits along the way that bring the price down.  Bizarre, but good for you!
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