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Author Topic: Trimode cl 769 to operate Reading to Oxford and Gatwick.  (Read 67388 times)
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« Reply #120 on: February 22, 2021, 01:55:15 pm »

I've just been reading on RailUK forums about more problems with Transport for Wales' 769s. Three of their trains have been out today and each of them in turn has failed, eventually being replaced by a class 150. There's no information so far of what the causes of the problems are, but it's probably just as well that GWR (Great Western Railway)'s 769s are not yet in service.

https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/transport-for-wales-769s.179770/post-5008891

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« Reply #121 on: February 22, 2021, 02:11:14 pm »

Yup, there are worrying signs that this will turn into a right old farce!
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« Reply #122 on: February 22, 2021, 02:30:11 pm »

I mean they look ok...Will they be used on the Reading-Basingstoke line?
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« Reply #123 on: February 22, 2021, 02:30:53 pm »

When will they enter passenger service?
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« Reply #124 on: February 22, 2021, 02:40:31 pm »

Yup, there are worrying signs that this will turn into a right old farce!

I mean they look ok...Will they be used on the Reading-Basingstoke line?

When will they enter passenger service?

There are times it's good to be leading edge rather than bleading edge.   Predictions / suggestions for them entering GWR service is in a few month's time but that's slipped a few times already and while various formations are reduced across GWR due to covid, sensible to get it right rather than rush it.    Looking OK is a bit of a cosmetic view - they need to work reliably too; inevitably there will be a learning curve for the maintenance teams at first so there may be a struggle to maintain reliability just at first, but we should (I think) be happy that experience is being gained in Wales.
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« Reply #125 on: March 18, 2021, 05:04:04 pm »

Reported elsewhere by GWR (Great Western Railway) sources that a 769 is due a trip from Reading Train Care Depot onto the mainline on Wednesday 24th March. Didn't specify which year, but let's be optimistic and assume they meant 2021  Grin Will beleive it when it happens.

And in reply to GWR 158, yes, it is proposed that they'll be used on the Reading-Basingstoke line as well as the Twyford and Windsor branches and the North Downs Line.
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« Reply #126 on: March 18, 2021, 05:42:06 pm »

Reported elsewhere by GWR (Great Western Railway) sources that a 769 is due a trip from Reading Train Care Depot onto the mainline on Wednesday 24th March. Didn't specify which year, but let's be optimistic and assume they meant 2021  Grin Will beleive it when it happens.

And in reply to GWR 158, yes, it is proposed that they'll be used on the Reading-Basingstoke line as well as the Twyford and Windsor branches and the North Downs Line.

Should indeed be next week for testing to start.

Once in passenger service, they will initially be for the Gatwick route. Certainly potential for other branches later on, but nothing confirmed. I'd say (personal opinion) that Windsor is highly unlikely as that will create crew issues as Paddington and Reading drivers both cover the Windsor route. 
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« Reply #127 on: March 18, 2021, 07:12:57 pm »

Thanks Ollie

It is some what bizarre that they will be used for Reading - Basingstoke, with no usable electric traction supply between Southcote Junction and Basingstoke, but not Reading-Oxford services on which they could run on the OHL (Over-Head Line) from Reading to Didcot.
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« Reply #128 on: March 18, 2021, 07:16:28 pm »

That comes down to the same 'one depot' strategy that Ollie mentioned in his previous post.  Reading to Basingstoke is only crewed by Reading drivers.  Reading to Didcot/Oxford is crewed by Reading, Paddington and Oxford drivers.
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« Reply #129 on: March 26, 2021, 06:54:38 am »

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Did it happen, and how far did they get?
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« Reply #130 on: March 26, 2021, 10:54:34 am »

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a trip from Reading Train Care Depot onto the mainline on Wednesday 24th March

Did it happen, and how far did they get?

No. But there is now what looks very like a 769 path booked (as FRGT (FReiGhT)) for Monday 29th! Nothing too strenuous mind, just Reading TD-DID» (Didcot Parkway - next trains)-MAI (Maidenhead station)-Reading TD, so it won't even need to turn the engines on. There are also paths to and from Long Marston, but they are standard preallocations and almost always get cancelled.
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« Reply #131 on: March 26, 2021, 11:24:29 am »

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so it won't even need to turn the engines on

Bearing in mind the routes they are currently (no pun intended!) apparently ear-marked for working (North Downs and Reading-Basingstoke) have respectively no and only a short stretch of OHL (Over-Head Line) it seems a bit daft not to do so!
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« Reply #132 on: March 29, 2021, 04:15:12 pm »

Well it did run. (link to GWR (Great Western Railway) twitter_)

Maybe of note that this was publicised after the event when it had completed the run and not before or during Smiley
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« Reply #133 on: March 29, 2021, 07:02:39 pm »

...and if the photo on Twitter is up-to-date, they have not yet applied the grey diagonal stripe and GWR (Great Western Railway) logos yet. Are they hedging their bets if they do not pass their tests?

The rippled carriage sides show well, too.
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« Reply #134 on: April 07, 2021, 11:31:29 am »

I've just been reading elsewhere that all 3 GWR (Great Western Railway) 769s are out of action today (7/4/21). It was mentioned that if there was only one that was serviceable, then it wouldn't be able to go out because there wouldn't be another 769 to rescue it if it broke down. It makes me wonder that, if they are that unreliable, what is the probability that a rescue 769 would also fail and cause even more disruption?
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