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« Reply #30 on: May 04, 2018, 01:29:24 am »

The first pair of Class 802/0 sets assembled in Italy are on the move again through continental Europe after being delayed by striking SNCF staff.

For those with an understanding of French:
https://lapassiondutrain.blogspot.co.uk/2018/05/hazebrouck-ce-jeudi-vsoe-rame-hitachi-1.html?m=1

They'll shortly join three 802/0s, built in Japan, that are already on test with GWR.

Whether everything is on schedule for an introduction of the 4 sets into passenger service on 16th July 2018 remains to be seen...
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« Reply #31 on: May 04, 2018, 01:10:48 pm »

Apparently it should have ran on three days last week but only did so one . Worryingly the two days it didn't run were days when Dawlish was closed to CrossCountry Voyagers.........  Conspiracy theories abound.....

802s have been tested and approved to work during bad conditions at Dawlish, they have an automatic reset on the resistor braking unit, something the voyagers don't have.

It would be interesting to find out exactly how 'Dawlish conditions' were simulated. I doubt if hundreds of tons of sea water containing pebbles, sand and other detritus has been thrown at a unit under high wind conditions. I can understand why the conspiracy theories abound. It would be good PR from GWR/Hitachi to deliberately run an 802 through Dawlish under such conditions.

Its not a "conspiracy theory" I've just been trying to find the video of the 802 going through Dawlish during high tides. The Voyagers have a problem with the resistor packs, when sea water gets on top it shorts them out and immediately applies the brakes.  The 802s have an automatic reset for this situation which should stop it happening. https://www.thebreeze.com/southdevon/news/local-news/dawlish-proofed-trains-being-trialled-at-nights/
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« Reply #32 on: May 04, 2018, 01:24:42 pm »

Its not a "conspiracy theory" I've just been trying to find the video of the 802 going through Dawlish during high tides. The Voyagers have a problem with the resistor packs, when sea water gets on top it shorts them out and immediately applies the brakes.  The 802s have an automatic reset for this situation which should stop it happening. https://www.thebreeze.com/southdevon/news/local-news/dawlish-proofed-trains-being-trialled-at-nights/

Good to see high quality journalism there - they appear to either think that the HST are the ones with the problem or that the voyagers are 40 years old!
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« Reply #33 on: May 04, 2018, 01:25:35 pm »

From ;-

https://www.thebreeze.com/southdevon/news/local-news/dawlish-proofed-trains-being-trialled-at-nights/

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The current ones, which are 40 years old, break down after the waves crash over them and flood the electrics.

Really !!!!
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« Reply #34 on: May 04, 2018, 10:31:21 pm »

The first pair of Class 802/0 sets assembled in Italy are on the move again through continental Europe after being delayed by striking SNCF staff.

What is a bit ironic about that is that yesterday was a strike day. However, with roughly 40-50% of drivers and other front-line staff working, it never was a matter of "no goods trains possible". It was more a problem of planning these long and complicated workings, and having to give priority to passenger trains and some urgent/perishable goods.
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« Reply #35 on: June 13, 2018, 03:11:17 pm »

Its not a "conspiracy theory" I've just been trying to find the video of the 802 going through Dawlish during high tides. The Voyagers have a problem with the resistor packs, when sea water gets on top it shorts them out and immediately applies the brakes.  The 802s have an automatic reset for this situation which should stop it happening. https://www.thebreeze.com/southdevon/news/local-news/dawlish-proofed-trains-being-trialled-at-nights/

Plenty of places in Japan where you get Dawlish-style runs beside the sea, along with everything from sub-zero to tropical temperatures. Belgium on the other hand is not quite so demanding on rolling stock, which perhaps accounts for some of the issues
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« Reply #36 on: June 13, 2018, 03:47:34 pm »

There’s a pair of 802s in Laira Parked up nearest The main road, been there for over a week.
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« Reply #37 on: June 13, 2018, 06:37:40 pm »

Posted on Facebook yesterday: 802009 & 802010 in middle of freight train being moved to North Pole 12/06/18.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPYDLufGsyY&feature=youtu.be

Guessing this is it on RTT:
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/R04908/2018/06/12/advanced
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« Reply #38 on: August 05, 2018, 04:51:54 pm »

Seat Reservations for Monday, August 13 are booked as IET. So possible that this will be the start of operations. Staff tell me that it should be any of the next upcoming Mondays.
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« Reply #39 on: August 05, 2018, 06:59:24 pm »

Seat Reservations for Monday, August 13 are booked as IET. So possible that this will be the start of operations. Staff tell me that it should be any of the next upcoming Mondays.

Do you know which trains the seat reservations are booked as IET for?
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« Reply #40 on: August 05, 2018, 07:15:05 pm »

Information posted elsewhere has consistently stated 20 August (2018).
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« Reply #41 on: August 05, 2018, 09:51:32 pm »

Bookings are being taken 'as if' an IET, so when an HST rocks up you're stuffed if you aren't in A-F or have a seat number above 80 as the reservations are being superimposed onto the HST layout; if you're lucky anything from F-J will be squeezed in to what remains of F.
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« Reply #42 on: August 06, 2018, 10:16:24 am »

Seat Reservations for Monday, August 13 are booked as IET. So possible that this will be the start of operations. Staff tell me that it should be any of the next upcoming Mondays.

Do you know which trains the seat reservations are booked as IET for?

0730 Pad - Pnz & 1400 Pnz - Pad
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« Reply #43 on: August 07, 2018, 10:04:29 pm »

It has been confirmed to staff today that the following services will be operated by Class 802 IETs from Monday 20th August 2018.

1C04 0730 London Paddington - Penzance (via Bristol TM)
1A83 1400 Penzance to London Paddington

Realtime Trains confirms this information with the 5C04 ECS move coming off North Pole IEP Depot.


Mods. I still think this topic is on the wrong board. Took me a Google search to find it again. London to the West perhaps.
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« Reply #44 on: August 08, 2018, 10:22:45 pm »

Apparently it should have ran on three days last week but only did so one . Worryingly the two days it didn't run were days when Dawlish was closed to CrossCountry Voyagers.........  Conspiracy theories abound.....

802s have been tested and approved to work during bad conditions at Dawlish, they have an automatic reset on the resistor braking unit, something the voyagers don't have.

It would be interesting to find out exactly how 'Dawlish conditions' were simulated. I doubt if hundreds of tons of sea water containing pebbles, sand and other detritus has been thrown at a unit under high wind conditions. I can understand why the conspiracy theories abound. It would be good PR from GWR/Hitachi to deliberately run an 802 through Dawlish under such conditions.

Its not a "conspiracy theory" I've just been trying to find the video of the 802 going through Dawlish during high tides. The Voyagers have a problem with the resistor packs, when sea water gets on top it shorts them out and immediately applies the brakes.  The 802s have an automatic reset for this situation which should stop it happening. https://www.thebreeze.com/southdevon/news/local-news/dawlish-proofed-trains-being-trialled-at-nights/

I guess the seawater will cool down the overheating engines...?
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