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« Reply #120 on: September 10, 2018, 08:40:14 am »

Can't quite read that fully, Grahame.  What is the word in brackets after the uppermost Coach A?  It looks like SH**.
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« Reply #121 on: September 10, 2018, 08:42:00 am »

It is "Shhhh"   Seems we can't cope with "Quiet Coach" anymore.
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« Reply #122 on: September 10, 2018, 08:43:51 am »

Thanks Bob.  My naughty mind at play then.  What on earth are they thinking (or not, as the case may be?) Roll Eyes
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« Reply #123 on: September 13, 2018, 04:35:53 pm »

So the Existing pair of 0730 PAD-PNZ and 1400 PNZ-PAD is now embedded into the schedule. Any ideas as to what pairing to/from Cornwall will see the second IET working?
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« Reply #124 on: September 13, 2018, 06:20:35 pm »

Today's 14:00 ex Penzance formed of 2x5 car 802s has come to a stand with an air leak between Exeter St Davids and Tiverton Parkway.
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« Reply #125 on: September 13, 2018, 07:17:24 pm »

Today's 14:00 ex Penzance formed of 2x5 car 802s has come to a stand with an air leak between Exeter St Davids and Tiverton Parkway.
Thanks Bob.  I had already put details in the IET thread Roll Eyes
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« Reply #126 on: September 24, 2018, 09:57:39 am »

So the Existing pair of 0730 PAD-PNZ and 1400 PNZ-PAD is now embedded into the schedule. Any ideas as to what pairing to/from Cornwall will see the second IET working?

The 0635 off Paddington is an IET today, just passed it at Plymouth at 0945.
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« Reply #127 on: September 24, 2018, 03:07:36 pm »

Today the 0730 pad to Penzance and 1400 Penzance to Paddington was 2 x 5

And the Royal Duchy (about noon off Penzance I think) was a 9 car. Possibly the first day of this one becoming a IET
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« Reply #128 on: September 24, 2018, 08:53:09 pm »

So the Existing pair of 0730 PAD-PNZ and 1400 PNZ-PAD is now embedded into the schedule. Any ideas as to what pairing to/from Cornwall will see the second IET working?

The 0635 off Paddington is an IET today, just passed it at Plymouth at 0945.

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« Reply #129 on: October 18, 2018, 05:28:14 pm »

I guess this subject has been done to death over multiple threads, but I accompanied the Good Lady Wife up to the Big Smoke from Exeter today on the Armada (1A72 0553 Plymouth to London Paddington). As it has been for a while now, it was formed of 2x5 Class 802s (802003/005). We sat in the middle coach of the rear set. It was our first long-distance journey by 802. Without any prompting, this is the GLW's opinion............
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Good......... plenty of leg room (she suffers from Restless Leg Syndrome and regularly needs to get up and walk around), so she was able to sit for longer; Quieter engines; Good acceleration; A 'pleasant experience using the toilet"!;

Bad........... Too much under-floor vibration (she wondered why it disappeared after Reading until I told her we were running on  leccy then); Seats a little too hard; Too many loud Safety announcements; Manual announcements from the Guard could not be heard; "WHERE'S THE BUFFET?" she enquired, shortly after leaving Taunton as she wanted her usual cup of tea. "WAIT FOR THE TROLLEY TO COME TO YOU" says I. Well, we waited and we waited and we waited for the non-existent Trolley - which was apparently in the front set;
Asked to rate the experience out of 10 - her response......... 6
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« Reply #130 on: October 18, 2018, 06:18:08 pm »

And whose crystal ball was it that specifically forecast that on "a 5+5 train, the trolley will be in the other portion"
Such forecasts were widely held to be unduly negative, but this occurs regularly.

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« Reply #131 on: October 29, 2018, 01:15:49 pm »

1st trip on an IET yesterday, the 10:57 Paddington Penzance 10car 2x5 - 1C79 - Failed between Racecourse & Newbury due to a ĎTechnical Fault in the lead setí but eventually 'fixed by the driver' so 20L at Newbury and increasing thereafter.

Rammed through to Cornwall, my first class reserved seat was K48 in standard so something amiss in the booking engine maybe. Fortunately there were a few spare seats in the other car.

Not as bad as expected, 1st Class seat was just about OK for comfort (Iím 6í2Ē), but ride noise & vibration possibly worse than the HST I had the day before in the Up direction, I guess the one improvement will be less jolting with wheel slip.

Ambience & design wise not really suitable as a long distance Inter City Train, especially with no buffet & very limited trolley service, but fine for Inter City commuters like Bristol/London.
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« Reply #132 on: October 29, 2018, 04:43:53 pm »

From your reservation issue it may have been a substitution for a 9 car set
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« Reply #133 on: October 29, 2018, 04:45:48 pm »

From your reservation issue it may have been a substitution for a 9 car set

802101 is the only nine car version and this is not diagramed into any particular route. Mainly running to Plymouth at the moment however Iíve had it on a couple of Cheltenhamís and I did see it on a Worcester at Reading.
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« Reply #134 on: October 29, 2018, 05:39:48 pm »

From your reservation issue it may have been a substitution for a 9 car set

802101 is the only nine car version and this is not diagramed into any particular route. Mainly running to Plymouth at the moment however Iíve had it on a couple of Cheltenhamís and I did see it on a Worcester at Reading.

I've just tried reserving both a First Class and a Standard Class seat on that service for next Sunday. The GWR website came up with K55 (First Class) and F10 (Standard), so it would appear that the booking engine is set for a 9-car IET.
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