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Author Topic: Obscure journey on odd traction & Adelante roaming  (Read 8621 times)
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« on: March 06, 2008, 22:43:28 »

Sitting on a 150 coming home from Truro I started thinking what would the prize be for the most unusual journey in terms of stock over the last few years on FGW (First Great Western). Not that we have to many types of rolling stock but I am sure thre most be some examples of odd workings. I have heard of HST (High Speed Train) power cars on the sleeper but what gets the prize for the oddest working ?

 I would be also interested to know how far West an Adelante has got (Penzance ? Newquay ?)
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« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2008, 07:39:04 »

Sitting on a 150 coming home from Truro I started thinking what would the prize be for the most unusual journey in terms of stock over the last few years on FGW (First Great Western). Not that we have to many types of rolling stock but I am sure thre most be some examples of odd workings. I have heard of HST (High Speed Train) power cars on the sleeper but what gets the prize for the oddest working ?

 I would be also interested to know how far West an Adelante has got (Penzance ? Newquay ?)

Plymouth I belive.
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« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2008, 07:48:55 »

I have seen a pretty weird working.
When engineering works blocked the line between Plymouth and Exeter St Davids the sleeper stock worked the 10:36 Penzance-Plymouth.
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« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2008, 09:34:21 »

Funnily enough this question came up recently in one of the railway magazines.

It appears to be a detached HST (High Speed Train) power car on the Newquay branch.

Can't remember exact details but unit failed and one of the power cars was detached and the passengers ferried to ?

There was a picture of it standing with passengers milling round I think at St Dennis or one of the other intermediate stations. 

However, in general terms I still think single 153s on the mainline between Exeter and Plymouth are a complete waste of  valuable train paths.
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« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2008, 09:41:57 »

However, in general terms I still think single 153s on the mainline between Exeter and Plymouth are a complete waste of  valuable train paths.

That would be the Ivybridge solution then.....

Personally, I liked Gordon Edwards proposal of calling the CrossCountry services there (as did many others) but the DfT» (Department for Transport - about) rejected it.
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« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2008, 14:02:22 »

However, in general terms I still think single 153s on the mainline between Exeter and Plymouth are a complete waste of  valuable train paths.

That would be the Ivybridge solution then.....

Personally, I liked Gordon Edwards proposal of calling the CrossCountry services there (as did many others) but the DfT» (Department for Transport - about) rejected it.

By the way, if you want an insight into how the DfT reached the decision it did regarding Ivybridge, click on the link below.
http://www.raildocuments.org.uk/gw/ivybridge.pdf
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« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2008, 15:14:52 »

Yes, but in all fairness, XC (Cross Country Trains (franchise)) Country operate fast express services.

They do not want to slow down their trains (although the amount of slack is....... Angry ).

And Ivybridge is hardly a big place (Totnes is bigger)!

No- the solution is to stop most/all local services on the Exeter to Plymouth and beyond line.

BUT IF IVYBRIDGE IS PUT IN A SITUATION OF XC OR THE AXE THEN XC/HSTs (High Speed Train) SHOULD STOP.

I have to say that Ivybridge's cuts have been awful- why were they done? The passangers were there..... Or did it get TranWilts Syndrome?
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« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2008, 15:29:05 »

I have to say that Ivybridge's cuts have been awful- why were they done? The passangers were there..... Or did it get TranWilts Syndrome?

See earlier quote :

By the way, if you want an insight into how the DfT» (Department for Transport - about) reached the decision it did regarding Ivybridge, click on the link below.
http://www.raildocuments.org.uk/gw/ivybridge.pdf
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« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2008, 15:35:34 »

Have/are SWT (South West Trains) service gone/going soon?

Did they pick the FGW (First Great Western) option in the end?
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« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2008, 15:43:52 »

Have/are SWT (South West Trains) service gone/going soon?

The official line is "Services will run west of Exeter (to Plymouth and Paignton) as today, to be reviewed when the hourly Waterloo - Exeter service commences."

Did they pick the FGW (First Great Western) option in the end?

Yes they did.
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« Reply #10 on: March 07, 2008, 16:34:46 »

Funnily enough this question came up recently in one of the railway magazines.

It appears to be a detached HST (High Speed Train) power car on the Newquay branch.

Can't remember exact details but unit failed and one of the power cars was detached and the passengers ferried to ?

There was a picture of it standing with passengers milling round I think at St Dennis or one of the other intermediate stations. 

However, in general terms I still think single 153s on the mainline between Exeter and Plymouth are a complete waste of  valuable train paths.

Believe a lone powercar did an all halts for some reason!
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« Reply #11 on: March 07, 2008, 17:43:43 »

Hang on. How can a single power car run a service? Were the passengers in the cycle store?
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« Reply #12 on: March 07, 2008, 18:46:17 »

Funnily enough this question came up recently in one of the railway magazines.

It appears to be a detached HST (High Speed Train) power car on the Newquay branch.

Can't remember exact details but unit failed and one of the power cars was detached and the passengers ferried to ?

There was a picture of it standing with passengers milling round I think at St Dennis or one of the other intermediate stations. 

However, in general terms I still think single 153s on the mainline between Exeter and Plymouth are a complete waste of  valuable train paths.

Interested to see in Railway Magazine this month a report of power cars 43134 and 43146 coming to rescue of failed HST set resulting in triple headed class 43 on the 19.05 Paddington-Penzance on 5th Feb.
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« Reply #13 on: March 08, 2008, 09:54:10 »

Funnily enough this question came up recently in one of the railway magazines.

It appears to be a detached HST (High Speed Train) power car on the Newquay branch.

Can't remember exact details but unit failed and one of the power cars was detached and the passengers ferried to ?

There was a picture of it standing with passengers milling round I think at St Dennis or one of the other intermediate stations. 

However, in general terms I still think single 153s on the mainline between Exeter and Plymouth are a complete waste of  valuable train paths.
This is when an HST derailed near Luxulyan, as the location is on a high embankment, it was unsafe to detrain people, so they used the power car that hadn't derailed to ferry the passengers to (I think) Luxulyan station, as for 153's between Plymouth and Exeter, if they didn't run then Ivybridge wouldn't have a train service!
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« Reply #14 on: March 08, 2008, 10:31:51 »

as for 153's between Plymouth and Exeter, if they didn't run then Ivybridge wouldn't have a train service!

See quote below :

By the way, if you want an insight into how the DfT» (Department for Transport - about) reached the decision it did regarding Ivybridge, click on the link below.
http://www.raildocuments.org.uk/gw/ivybridge.pdf

Quote from one of the options contained in the above 2006 DfT document link :

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9. Options for Ivybridge are:

a. To do nothing. This would reduce the station's usefulness, as it would no longer effectively serve regular student traffic in either direction, With the eventual withdrawal of the SW services in December 2007, there would effectively be no service for any regular users. Continued existence of the station would be pointless.
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