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« Reply #60 on: July 08, 2018, 11:46:17 pm »

We are often told by the railway industry that these major closures are planned far in advance and cant therefore be altered, presuming that this is true, why was almost no warning given by GTR of this closure.

There are going to be exceptional closures for emergency works at short notice.  It feels at times though that short notice closures or effective closures (no trains running) have become anything but exceptional.

Depends where the engineering works are. If they are following up the temporary repairs put in place at Streatham (I think it was) that stopped trains to Victoria, then it was not planned months in advance. 

The main line closure is Three Bridges to Brighton, hence a long bus journey, and I think it was listed on Southern's web site in May (when the problems with the Gatwick-Redhill buses were news). The March EAS lists it as Commissioning, Resignalling, and Maintenance. So no, it's not new - is there any evidence it wasn't easy to find out about if you actually needed to know?

What does seem to be missing from the advance information is a real alternative to the Journey planner. That's a good start if only one train interests you, and what they list for works by date then fills in the "how bad would it be" details. But for works that spread over many days/weekends, that doesn't help you with "I'd like to go to Brighton at least one weekend this summer - which day would be best?"

And how would you actually use this information, in practice, other than (as they do suggest too) not travelling at all?
Travelling to Brighton to / from stations between Three Bridges and London?

    A limited train service will operate in both directions between Brighton and London Victoria via Littlehampton with journey times extended by 60 minutes, taking 2 hours 15 minutes between London and Brighton.
    Customers travelling between London and Brighton are advised to use these services rather than the replacement buses.
    These trains will only operate once an hour and space will be extremely limited. Not everyone will be able to board these services.

As it happens there is another long-planned possession at Streatham Common, but it's only on the line (Streatham Spurs) from Tulse Hill, so not likely to be useful.
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« Reply #61 on: August 04, 2018, 11:51:12 am »

Old Severn bridge closed due to staff sickness....

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« Reply #62 on: August 04, 2018, 12:03:22 pm »

Old Severn bridge closed due to staff sickness....

A financial decision hidden in a cloak of safety, perhaps?

"If we haven't got staff members in crucial roles on the toll plaza it is not safe for our team or the drivers so we have taken the decision to close the tolls.


It remains open in the eastbound direction, which is not controlled by tolls.

If the toll booths had simply been left open, news would have spread and those in the know would have taken to using the old bridge not the new, reducing the fare take on the new bridge.  Couldn't risk that, could we?  Better send the drivers who would normally use the old bridge via the new, so their money can be collected anyway!

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« Reply #63 on: August 04, 2018, 06:33:46 pm »

Old Severn bridge closed due to staff sickness....

A somewhat opportunistic smug tweet earlier from GWR:
The M48 Severn Crossing is closed but GWR services from Bristol Parkway to Wales are running a good service.

Okay, letís see how you do tomorrow on services between South Wales and London and how many are cancelled due to shortage of crew.

I doubt those who were due to travel on the Pembroke Coast Express from Pembrokeshire to London this morning would describe it as Ďa good serviceí.
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« Reply #64 on: August 04, 2018, 07:41:51 pm »

Those whom live in glass houses - -

The reliability of GWR services is far behind that of the bridge crossing.
Weekends=staff shortages
Weekdays=short trains
Moderately bad weather, during which roads and airlines work normally, throws the railway into chaos.

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