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Author Topic: Dangerous overcrowding 15/5 London-Swansea  (Read 8503 times)
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« on: May 16, 2018, 17:19:39 »

This looks pretty horrendous.................all these "thousands" of extra seats not making much difference - off peak midweek service;

https://twitter.com/DudeWoods/status/996400618431492097
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« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2018, 17:22:58 »

Was this a five vice 10?

Looking down the feed, someone has come up with an interesting name for Hitachi which I won’t repeat.
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« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2018, 17:37:03 »

Was this a five vice 10?

Looking down the feed, someone has come up with an interesting name for Hitachi which I won’t repeat.


Go on, copy and paste it.
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« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2018, 17:41:32 »

Don’t need to, just add an ‘S’
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« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2018, 17:49:24 »

Don’t need to, just add an ‘S’

So the out of order toilets were full of the brown stuff then.
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« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2018, 19:01:27 »

And there was me thinking he was talking about HitachiS ! Huh
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« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2018, 16:19:12 »

According to one of the comments, yes it was a 5 car.

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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU (Diesel Multiple Unit) is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2018, 19:39:35 »

Does the topic heading need correcting?
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« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2018, 19:46:23 »

Anyway, no cause for concern as "the on board staff are trained to monitor loadings and will intervene if necessary" Was some special event adding significantly to passenger numbers ? Or is this just the consequences of a new shorter train.

It is also implied that the air conditioning was not working properly or perhaps not coping with the crowds.  
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU (Diesel Multiple Unit) is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #9 on: May 17, 2018, 19:58:31 »

Does the topic heading need correcting?

Correcting? Are you suggesting it's inaccurate?

"2.45 from London to Swansea. No air con, no working toilets, pregnant lady standing and getting crushed by other passengers! No staff to be seen anywhere stopping more passengers getting on!"

I'd say the heading sums it up quite succinctly?
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« Reply #10 on: May 17, 2018, 20:08:17 »

Yes but its May, not August, which is what I assume bobm is referring to
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« Reply #11 on: May 17, 2018, 20:08:45 »

I have no doubt as to the facts, but the date looks wrong ? I presume that this occurred on May 15, 2018.

It sounds worse than I realised, was not aware that all toilets out of order.
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU (Diesel Multiple Unit) is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #12 on: May 17, 2018, 20:34:02 »

Yes but its May, not August, which is what I assume bobm is referring to

Doh! 😳 ........done!
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« Reply #13 on: May 17, 2018, 21:53:17 »

All the posts need doing....
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« Reply #14 on: May 24, 2018, 10:32:57 »


"2.45 from London to Swansea. No air con, no working toilets, pregnant lady standing and getting crushed by other passengers! No staff to be seen anywhere stopping more passengers getting on!"



Short trains are to be expected, it is called new train disease.

What I find to be as concerning is the reported failure of the toilets and the air conditioning. Why did these important facilities fail on a new train. Are Hitachi liable for failing to provide a train in good working order.
Whilst overcrowding increases the demands on both air conditioning and toilets, these facilities should surely be designed to cope with overcrowding.
Single unit operation is bound to occur, and even a full length train could suffer this sort of crowding at holiday times.

If there is some wiggle room and Hitachi are NOT liable for toilet and air conditioning failures, then such failures will presumably become a regular event.
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU (Diesel Multiple Unit) is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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