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Question: What should be running From Ryde to Shanklin in 5 years time?  (Voting closed: June 26, 2018, 04:57:05 pm)
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« Reply #15 on: September 13, 2019, 09:32:14 pm »

Interesting comment today on the Keep Island Line in Franchise Facebook page regarding reports of recent visits by Vivarail staff to the line. It's not from an official source but seeing there was already this thread, I thought I'd add it here rather than start a new one in the Rumour Mill.
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« Reply #16 on: September 16, 2019, 11:30:14 am »

Vivarail to supply five 2-car EMU’s to replace current trains. Testing starts next year and there will also be track improvements, including a passing loop at Brading to allow a 30 minute service

https://onthewight.com/new-trains-coming-to-the-isle-of-wight/

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https://twitter.com/paulcliftonbbc/status/1173537398799683584?s=21
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« Reply #17 on: September 16, 2019, 12:02:05 pm »

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Today (Monday) there’s good news for the users of Island Line. New trains are coming to the Island.

As anyone who has ridden the Isle of Wight’s train service knows, the trains that run between Shanklin and Ryde pier head are old. Really old.

The trains and carriages first came into service in 1938 on London Underground’s Tube. They’re so old in fact that they’re older than some of the wagons that run on the heritage Isle of Wight Steam Railway.

Five new trains

Today it’s been announced that the company Vivarail has been selected to build five new trains to run on the Isle of Wight.

The first two-car train is expected to arrive on test in early summer 2020, with track improvement works due to take place over the winter of that year.

The proposals were developed in partnership with key stakeholders on the Island, including Isle of Wight Council and Solent Local Enterprise Partnership. They have agreed to jointly contribute £1 million to fund a new passing loop at Brading, helping to deliver an even interval half-hourly service to the pier.

As a clarification, I suspect the "new" trains are refitted / refurbished D76 underground stock ... but never the less, this seems to be good news. 
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« Reply #18 on: September 16, 2019, 01:07:29 pm »

Yes, they are the refurbished LT D78 stock and will be 3rd rail powered.


Apologies, my mistake; now corrected
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« Reply #19 on: September 16, 2019, 01:15:10 pm »

Yes, they are the refurbished LT D76 stock and will be 3rd rail powered.

Strange, as the Press Release says D78 stock (which is what I thought they are)......

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In trainspotting circles, they’re called D78 Stock. Originally manufactured during 1980 by Metro Cammell, Vivarail take the trains, install electric motors and fit it out the D78’s aluminium bodyshells with new interiors – with can feature modern-needs such as phone charging.
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« Reply #20 on: September 16, 2019, 01:59:03 pm »

Former D78 London Underground stock, to be known as Class 484 on the Isle of Wight.
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« Reply #21 on: September 16, 2019, 07:27:28 pm »

My goodness it's taken them a long time to make the blindingly obvious decision!
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« Reply #22 on: September 16, 2019, 09:18:25 pm »

My goodness it's taken them a long time to make the blindingly obvious decision!
I suspect ooooooooozz gonna pay for it was behind the delay in getting towards today’s announcement. Pleased for Vivarail.
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« Reply #23 on: September 16, 2019, 10:07:44 pm »

My goodness it's taken them a long time to make the blindingly obvious decision!

That's presumably because they've followed the GTFBORID* process, recently tested to near-destruction in Portishead...

*Governance for Taking Forever to make Blindingly Obvious Railway Investment Decisions
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« Reply #24 on: September 16, 2019, 10:57:44 pm »

I've read that battery options were not taken up for two reasons:

1. Service every 30 minutes apparently doesn't give sufficient battery top up time.
2. Recent replacement of some of the 3rd rail means it was seen as worth keeping.

Source from the Keep Island Line in Franchise, Facebook page. Announcement 16 Sept (and subsequent comments and replies).
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« Reply #25 on: September 17, 2019, 04:51:19 pm »

From tomorrow the usual service of two Island trains an hour will be replaced by an hourly service "until further notice" according to SWR Twitter.
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« Reply #26 on: September 17, 2019, 07:08:52 pm »

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  Alterations to services between Ryde Pier Head and Shanklin
Due to a shortage of trains because of extra safety inspections between Ryde Pier Head and Shanklin fewer trains are able to run on the line.
What's Going On:
Train services running to and from these stations have been reduced to an hourly service. Disruption is expected until the end of the day on 20/09/19.
What We're Doing About It:
The hourly service will begin from tomorrow, Wednesday the 18th of September. We will return to our normal two trains an hour timetable as soon as possible, but the age of these trains and the difficulty in securing replacement parts means this may take longer than normal.
The hourly service will connect with the ferries at Ryde Pier Head (xx:18 departures from Shanklin and xx:49 departures from Ryde Pier Head).
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« Reply #27 on: September 20, 2019, 11:56:15 am »


Announcement:

https://www.islandecho.co.uk/new-trains-and-passing-loop-confirmed-as-future-of-island-line-revealed/

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« Reply #28 on: October 21, 2019, 02:21:24 pm »

From tomorrow the usual service of two Island trains an hour will be replaced by an hourly service "until further notice" according to SWR Twitter.

Back to 2 trains per hour

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Island Line Trains returns to two per hour

South Western Railway say keeping the 1938 ex-London Underground trains going is a difficult task, but following hard work by the team at the train care depot at Ryde St John’s, the second train is now back in action

For just over a month, Island Line Trains has been operating only one train per hour after a safety issue was discovered on one of the trains.

South Western Railway have confirmed to OnTheWight that from this morning (Monday) two trains per hour are now back in operation.
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« Reply #29 on: October 22, 2019, 07:17:43 am »

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