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« Reply #30 on: September 05, 2018, 10:59:39 » |
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To overrule almost the entire council, including those in his own party, is a very interesting move, one that the people of Bristol will be able to give their verdict on at the next mayoral election which is 2 years time is it?
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« Reply #31 on: September 05, 2018, 11:14:00 » |
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Does anyone have any idea what is currently being built on Arena Island? Looks like a bridge, which will presumably be moved into position once complete, but to where? And what for?
I'm told that it is a new Pedestrian access footbridge, so at least one new footbridge is being installed in the Bristol area !. The bridge is complete and cranes have appeared in the past few days to lift it into place I belief it is connecting to Albert Road |
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« Reply #32 on: September 05, 2018, 11:30:50 » |
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Yes, it connects the coach drop-off point on Albert Road to the Arena. Oh, hang on...
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« Reply #33 on: September 05, 2018, 12:50:08 » |
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Marvellous Marvin says that the centre is the best place for the Arena but that using that land for a mix of offices and housing will be more beneficial for the city as a whole. Possibly he's right, I don't know. I just doubt that the Nonarena Island will actually be used for anything now.
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« Reply #34 on: September 05, 2018, 13:34:36 » |
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Reluctantly, I agree with Marvin on this issue. Bristol is not a huge city with spare space for a large Arena, unless expensively done with accommodation, entertainment and retail to ensure that the site is fully utilised for much of the day. The population of Bristol has already grown by 10% in the last 10 years, and is approaching 500K fast, the need for accessible entertainment venues is essential for a vibrant city. The need for an Arena is more important now than ever.
However, this whole process has been dragging on 15 years and the failure of work not to be in progress is Marvin's, and Marvin's alone.
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« Reply #35 on: September 06, 2018, 09:40:37 » |
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There is a new sports arena coming to the land around Ashton Gate, expect to see this up and running before this plan at Filton comes to anything
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« Reply #36 on: September 06, 2018, 10:35:54 » |
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I can see that 'Arena' and 'Sports Arena' both contain the word 'arena', but they are not the same thing.
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« Reply #37 on: September 06, 2018, 11:17:40 » |
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Bristol must be one of the fastest growing cities in the country, and due to its size, and the population of neighbouring authorities there is a need for a local arena. The problem with going to London, Birmingham, Cardiff and Exeter is that return public transport stops at 10pm none of them are located easily for Bristol traffic. I hope that any plans for Filton include - local rail access
- monorail for Mall@Criibs car parks
- central bus station for local and national buses to ensure people can get home
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« Reply #38 on: September 06, 2018, 11:32:45 » |
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Bristol must be one of the fastest growing cities in the country.
According to the ONS» , the Greater Thornbury town region had the second fastest population growth in the UK▸ in the period mid-2011 to mid-2016. Curiously, and anachronistically, they refer to this region as you do, as 'Bristol'. Of course the Brab Hanger site is pretty central for Greater Thornbury... |
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« Reply #39 on: September 06, 2018, 11:59:08 » |
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Bristol must be one of the fastest growing cities in the country, and due to its size, and the population of neighbouring authorities there is a need for a local arena. The problem with going to London, Birmingham, Cardiff and Exeter is that return public transport stops at 10pm none of them are located easily for Bristol traffic. I hope that any plans for Filton include - local rail access
- monorail for Mall@Criibs car parks
- central bus station for local and national buses to ensure people can get home
Cant agree with the monorail, non standard and too much to go wrong. Substitute a standard railway or tramway, and I agree. A standard type of railway can of course be elevated well above ground if the extra expense and complication is justified. |
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU▸ is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #40 on: September 06, 2018, 12:15:35 » |
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Cant agree with the monorail, non standard and too much to go wrong.
Substitute a standard railway or tramway, and I agree. Guided Busway? Understand there may be grants available ... Or perhaps an opportunity to run a branch railway from North Filton Platorm across the site of the old runway to Cribb's shopping centre before housing locks all alternative routes. Advantage - transport could link and continue to stations throughout the West of Engalnd. Disadvantage - new trains with plenty of luggage capacity might be needed |
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« Reply #41 on: September 06, 2018, 12:28:38 » |
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Monorail. Like Alton Towers?
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« Reply #42 on: September 06, 2018, 12:32:43 » |
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According to the ONS» , the Greater Thornbury town region had the second fastest population growth in the UK▸ in the period mid-2011 to mid-2016. Curiously, and anachronistically, they refer to this region as you do, as 'Bristol'.
'Thornbury' is one of the finest hymn tunes ever written, whereas 'Bristol' is a bit drab and pedestrian, so I'm with you on this one. |
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« Reply #43 on: September 06, 2018, 12:41:15 » |
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Monorail. Like Alton Towers?
Smaller centres of population can already boast of having better than anything we are likely to end up with there: https://www.kdlr.co.uk |
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« Reply #44 on: September 06, 2018, 12:43:42 » |
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I hope that any plans for Filton include - local rail access
- monorail for Mall@Criibs car parks
- central bus station for local and national buses to ensure people can get home
Or how about you put a station on the Henbury loop that just so conveniently passes right by the proposed arena site there! Of course that would require joined up thinking and actually public transport planning. By a council who have spend millions on replacing three bus routes, with well, three bus routes. |
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